detectable → reportable → reports → bans
all forms of throwing can be detected
with this now fully clarified, I wont be continuing this conversation
reporting the thrower under gameplay sabotage but dont be like frogger that dude i consider to be a horrible person like he seems to not care when he trolls people who arent super skilled
I think what you have is a game director scape-goating to anything because they know what the actual problem is in the first place.
“Its called your current iteration of the video game sucks and not everyone likes it”
In Overwatch 1 most people didn’t leave during first team fights. In overwatch 2 people almost always left after first team fight.
So from a game director’s standpoint a person should be like.
- Gee I wonder why people leave my matches now from the first team fight. Dang.Maybe its because I changed the game’s FORMAT and people don’t like it. Maybe instead of crossing my arms, pouting and being mad at people for not liking what I did to a game, I should revert those changes. because its customer feedback.
The next one should be "Gee, maybe there is a problem with my match maker where one full team is fully steam-rolling the other team, maybe the match maker system is not doing that great.
Bottom line is, people aren’t being raging trolls quitting matches out of Loss fear phobia. its crap matches, and just spending time and looking at feedback on the internet about this game.
Seams to align with why people quit more matches in Overwatch 2 than Overwatch 1.
bottom line. Not going to shill here. Match making in Overwatch is CRAP and the first loss team fights discourage people from playing because 6v6 didn’t cause nuke-outs of an entire team due to 1 person’s lack of ability on a team.
Now, is either format better/worse. no. its a matter of opinion. But I’d say with lots more leavers in Overwatch 2 than one. its safe to say “2” is by far, garbage.
The people that are going to side with blizzard will say “We like anything blizzard does and enjoy it, so go play a new game elsewhere”.
And those that were happy with the old format are going to continue to complain about changes to it.
It is what it is.
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i had a teammate support yesterday being toxic with trashtalking me and a teammate but the funny thing is i got them as a opponent next match and they was destroyed but sadly they was trash talking a soldier on their team who was either new or just had gotten out of a suspension i was light hi xuser (using this a a placeholder) 
after i ulted anad they was hit i guesss you can sa y that defeat of the toxic person was pure karma
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Let’s make the game competitive even in QP!
Untrue. There is no way to detect if a player is having a bad day or if they’re intentionally throwing.
Please, tell me your method to detect these players, I’ll make millions.
The statement i made stands
All forms of throwing are detectable
Ill add that there is no money to be made in detecting throwing players
With all of this now fully clarified, i wont be responding again to this conversation
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Does anyone actually have any concrete evidence of EOMM being used?
Because every time this gets brought up, it seems no one can actually prove it is being used. Meanwhile, we have recorded interviews with the devs who made the matchmaker, and they say that the matchmaker does not take streaks, hero pools, or anything else into account. That it is based on your MMR and that is it.
We have quotes from the devs themselves that they are not interested in forcing win rates on anyone in OW2 (that’s Morgan Maddren, if you’re looking for specifics.) They tell us it’s based on MMR, so it’s skill based matchmaking. With that matchmaking being slightly looser for QP than comp for the sake of queue times.
Now, as for the penalties…
I take issue with them in terms of how fast they ramp up, and how long they can last for at maximum. But they should absolutely exist.
Prior to the more substantial penalties, the old leaver penalty used to amount to getting your XP docked. It didn’t actively stop someone leaving a game and queueing up again immediately.
What this led to in OW1 was people leaving and rejoining the same game on a loop. All the while keeping that lobby in a 5v6, and ruining the ult economy, AND blocking any backfill. However, even if they were smart enough to put someone on avoid, they would still continue to lobby-shop. Taking their little toxic spree though many lobbies before either giving up or settling in a game they think they can win.
The new penalties not only discourage leavers, but it actively contains their bad behaviour to as few lobbies as possible. Is it possible they’ll throw more than a tantrum? Yes. But throwing is then reportable. And players have no one to blame but themselves if they wind up in that position.
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its not actually detectable nothing is done to an account till a player is reported though the report system this eason has been broken
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they have no actual way to do know if it is intentional throwing or not.
I’ve had a ton of times i’ve accidentally went off the side of a cliff while getting carried away playing tracer and pressing the “jump” button more than once. I mean tracer is insanely FUN to play. And i get a crazy adrenaline dump playing as Tracer.
Thats a fun character hero they made and absolutely have a blast playing as TRACER. brings some joy to my life.
Could it be scene as throwing. Probably. intentional. no. Just me being a complete skill-less moron having too much fun in the game. 
Then tell us how you’d do it. Tell me how you’d tell the difference between someone having a bad day or intentionally throwing?
There’s plenty of money to be made from mind reading technology.
i will be honest ive done htat more than once playing as her as dont intentionally do it i dnt always plan moves correctly…last nights matches mentally have destroyed me
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And that’s exactly my point. Once an account is banned, they’ve lost everything. If they want to keep playing the game, they make the new account for free (with another number if need be), but now they have nothing to lose and are free to be even worse of a player than they were in getting banned.
The leaver penalty and eventual bans only serve to increase player toxicity. They liberate the bad community members to be as awful as they want to be. They only affect the honest players who pay money into this game. It’s so backwards.
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You have the Best comment on the forum.
I have found that every scumbag POS that ruins games for others here is NOT our core cast of community members. ITS POS level 1 accounts populating the game’s lower ranks and MMR tiers.
We might not get along here. But folks here are generally good people.
Instead people need to open their eyes and see what is really happening in the game. Get rid of the jaded lenses and toss it aside. Look folks. The matches are being absolutely recked by deliberate pieces of GARBAGE making level 1 accounts repeatedly.
I’ve had over, and over and over these level 1 accounts doing the stupidest things out there. Everything from RAGE HACKING, soft cheating to the stupidest ways to disrupt a match.
Wanna know they they are level 1 accounts?! Probably because they had to make ANOTHER account for being BANNED on the last one!
The pieces of garbage that have level 1 accounts playing overwatch that repeatedly enter to destroy lower MMR / ranked play for others and they absolutely have ruined this game for us.
The ignorant foos that think Overwatch’s Cell phone verification stuff stops any of this is absolutely just that. Ignorant.
We need to stop giving these toxic trolls the food they want. Which is people forced to remain in matches to put up with their bull (redacted) behavior. Let them play the game by themselves so they learn to grow the hell up and act civil in this game. Something this game really needs again.
Want Leaver penalties. FINE. But there needs to be changes on BOTH sides here. so we can mitigate the match issues so leaver penalties makes sense.
not this S/M complex to enjoying foul smelling matches. This game should be fun. not people just having to put up with burning up a clock for the sake of appeasing the Anti-leavers pro-troll tolerance crowd.
The game’s got to be fun for everyone, not just putting up with no-ends matches due to jerks that play this game for one reason and disrupting the whole thing.
Time to focus on the bigger picture. the ROOT cause. Leavers are just the scape goat. Point fingers instead at smurffing jerks that cause people TO LEAVE.
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