Revert Sombra, why was she even changed?

lmao this response is wild.

Good indication to mute and move on, have a good one.

enjoy being delusionally wrong.

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Yeah that’ll make you more correct if you just block everyone who disagrees with you then you can never be wrong. :joy:

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Sombra isn’t even too strong. Her design is just god awful. Their idea for a “rework” of the hero was keeping everything everyone hated about her on the character but then adding an even more annoying ability on top of it all with virus.

Absolute failure of a rework. Hell, Idek if I can call it a rework. That would imply something actually changed. It’s the same things.

Hack is still an unfun and unengaging ability. Perma invisibility is unfun and unengaging.

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You say that and yet I reply to a lot of people.

You’re choosing to believe in a false narritive.

You blocked me becasue i pointed out what parts of your post are opinions, because you literally can’t prove them to be facts, and then gave sound, logical rebuttle, where is the false narrative exactly???

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When was she an assassin before? I thought she was always a utility dps.

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At this point there are so many bigger war crimes in this game than Sombra. Ive hated her and personally wouldnt complain if shes just straight up removed as I just dont think shes okay in a game like Overwatch. No matter what happens nobody is ever going to do anything other than despise playing against her and despise her players.

But personally I say keep her around for the sole reason being I hate Doomfist and Hammond players more! High MMR games are so ruined by Doom and Hammond not because of their strength in the meta, but just because of what these characters turn the gameplay into with their mere existence.

I have rarely ever played Sombra in my life because the character just straight up doesnt interest me, but lately Ive gotten pretty good at her unfortunately for the sole reason that anytime I play against a Doom or Hammond I just swap and remove the game for them.

Keep her as long as Doom and Hammond exist in Overwatch, which will be always. So you could say Im a begrudging ally to Sombra players until those two are taken care of.

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It’s not a false narrative when you narrated it yourself.

How is the narrative false. He called you out on things that aren’t facts and your response is. “Okay blocked” :joy: you can’t create the narrative and then say the narrative you created is false. :joy:

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She was reworked because she was unfun to play into and thus had to be kept terrible. Which is the same state she’s in now and the same state she was in before her OW2 rework and the same state she was in before she was reworked in OW1.

The issue is they keep doubling down on the things that everyone hates about her instead of actually reworking her and the other problematic heroes she keeps in check by existing. I doubt many tears would be shed if they reworked Sombra, Doom, Ball and Widow to not be such fun sponges.

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I’m saying she fits that role better than before which is why she’s played more. It’s a more appealing playstyle to more players.

Her design being awful to play against is subjective, yes, but this is a common sentiment. You want evidence? Search “Sombra” on any platform. She has been hated for years. Do you really need evidence of this if you’ve truly mained her for 6 years?

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It’s false because it’s wrong.

But it’s useless wasting time arguing with you, I’ll just mute and move on.

Oh, if that’s the case, that’s actually wild, this whole time I thought it was because she was unpopular or pro locked but that’s why?

And somehow they didn’t manage to fix that issue at all?

Jesus, that’s sad.

Are you thick? Something feeling terrible to play against will never be “factual”. Enjoyment of a game is entirely subjective by nature. Would you ask someone who mainly plays Animal Crossing to “factually” explain why they don’t like Dark Souls? If most of the player base dislikes Sombra – which btw, is what got her reworked in the first place – then yes, her design is awful.

Besides, I said nothing about her being “overpowered”. Just that she sucks all the fun out of a match.

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Yeah, there’s a reason I muted them bro, good luck.

Don’t get worked up over delusional people.

And of course they’re trying to make it about her not being OP when literally they’re the only ones bringing that point up.

Imaginary arguments bro.

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There is no fact about this buddy, its ENTIRELY court of public opinion. Sombra isnt a law of nature with only one true correct scientific answer.

If you dont believe Sombra up there as one of the singular most hated characters in Overwatch I dont know what to tell you other than youre living in fantasy land.

The same goes for characters like Doomfist and Hammond who despite finding their own community of people who like them, the vast majority of the community isnt happy when these characters are strong. They make the game unfun.

If the broad reaction to a character is “they ruin the game by being in it” it means they are a bad design for the game.

In a vacuum Sombra is a perfectly fine design, but when implemented into Overwatch, not one person likes fighting Sombra. Shes a bad design for Overwatch kept around to deal with the other bad designs for Overwatch, counters to Doom, Hammond, Widow, etc.

People like me LITERALLY pick this hero for the sole reason as being the fun police! I pick her specifically to remove the fun Doomfist and Hammond players are having at the expense of the rest of the lobby!

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this clownshow gets funnier and funnier!

That’s a really great point, the only reason I like Sombra is because I can pick her into Doom, who is also terrible to play against.

There’s just some characters that unfortunately have to be kept weak because they’re just completely suck ALL the fun out of the game.

It would be nice if Hammond, Doom and Sombra were never added to the game but since that’s not the case they have to be kept weak.

  1. weird hostility calm down. sombra isn’t real, she isn’t your wife it’s okay.

  2. what a dumb request, because there aren’t stats to prove horrible design for ANY hero. Does that mean every hero is well designed? I’m sure you’re smart enough to answer that on your own.

Big nothing burger of a section in your reply here. Had nothing to do with the point I made.

Again… weird hostility and I guarantee you I’m far better than you at overwatch, I’ve been far better for a long time, and will continue to be far better.

Quit your parasocial relationship with a video game character and get a hobby. No one is insulting you personally when saying sombra is poorly designed.

You’re over here acting like virus is some ultra omega difficult ability to hit. It has a big hitbox, it isn’t hard to hit. Sombra’s skill requirements didn’t increase tenfold from gaining the virus ability. And no, things didn’t change.

If you read what i said and actually ATTEMPTED to make sense of the point I made instead of instantly throwing a fit over some nonsensical reason, you would see I said nothing changed because the problems the hero had before the rework and what people hated about her, STILL exist post-rework.

Perma invisibility is unfun and unengaging. Hack is unfun and unengaging. These are two things people have CONSISTENTLY complained about for years, because those are the two most problematic parts of her kit. Those didn’t go away with the rework, so the hero just has the same exact issues and same exact problematic abilities no one likes.

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She works well at a pro level, but on ladder she’s pretty consistently been horrible except for S1 of OW2 where her and Genji were laughably overpowered with the dps passive. She just isn’t fun to play into and as a result stays undertuned.

That said, there are plenty of other “niche” heroes who have the same issues where they’re kept bad because the community largely just hates playing into them. See Sym and Torb for a good example, or OW1 Doomfist.