Rein has always had an ult that has near no counterplay that doesn’t require mirror matching.
They should up the cast time like they did EMP, to allow slight more time to respond
Huh? Before they changed his shield, you had to endure a .2 second activation delay. Now it deploys instantly, meaning you actually can block shatter with it now.
I agree. They gave his shield a nerf for “counter play” opportunities. I really wished that mechanical skill was the only counter play to anything.
It really isnt, coming from a 4.3 Sigma, considering they significantly buffed his shielding abilities with the removal of the cast time. He became stronger after that patch.
Sigma is insanely broken (120 dmg primary, one shot combo, no footsteps, best ult in the game etc.) and needs HARD nerfs now, he’s STILL going to be super strong even after this next patch.
You should be looking to eat it anyways.
Are we talking solo shield here? Because at that point youre just throwing by going Sigma
Yes you should because Sigma isnt a Main tank, hes an off tank
Sigma isn’t currently, and will probably never be, a main tank.
They removed the cast time but if you already have it deployed there’s a 1 second cooldown before it can be redeployed.
It’s instant redeploy made the change a buff. If you’re just throwing it out and forgetting about it… don’t do that. Use it to block stuff you need to then put it away. If you know Red Rein has shatter then don’t keep your shield up, keep it ready to deploy to block shatter.
(This isn’t just a Sigma thing, this goes for Orisa and even Winston too if you know he has it and you haven’t already murdered his supports)
also @everyone else; Sigma is a main tank because his abilities lean himself towards that. He directly blocks a lot of damage, makes space, and can’t peel whereas off tanks only block or absorb small amounts of damage, fill space and most importantly, peel. Sigma is terrible at peeling with the only option being a long cast time, long CD skill shot and relatively low close up DPS. Sigma fills the off tank slot in Double Barrier but you’re really just running two main tanks since they make off tanks unnecessary.
There’s little to counter him because its already easy to counter Earth Shatter.
Stun him when he raises his arm.
Or, actually, just shoot him. If you kill him fast enough, he can’t shatter you.
Does he even need counters at that point?
That point would be valid if his shield wasn’t going to become weak as hell
0.45 seconds cast-time.
Brigitte could do that, if she had the bulk to be in the frontline. But that got removed.
Out of himself ? Yes, he absolutely does.
waaa my op hero got nerfed waaa blizzard pls fix waaa
He’s already intended to be used as a secondary shield tank; this further adds to that issue. Highest skillcap shield tank being unplayable without another shield tank is kind of sad.
You need to block it by predicting it and not by spamming the shield like used to be.
No thanks.
Spammy, resource-based abilities don’t provoke nearly as much thought from the user. It’s easier for people to learn and realise that their actions have consequences when a cooldown follows their ability.
Besides, the delay removal actually made his shield better against Rein. Really can’t people’s issue with him is now.
As if the barrier wasn’t already the best barrier in the game tied to a good ranged DPS with ranged CC and a self-sustaining matrix. How about: FNO
Well, when the other OP heroes got balance-positive changes (Orisa) or no changes at all (Mei)… yeah, actually do fix that.
attached to the game’s squishiest and most divable tank with the longest cooldowns of any tank
Huh? No it isn’t. Just have your barrier down and flick it up when he goes for it. Your barrier shouldn’t be up all the time anyway.
So if Rein’s got Shatter you should just never shield your team?
Seems a bit unreasonable. Shield management is one thing, but just never using it because one of the fastest-charging ults among all tanks could wipe your team if you ever put it up is quite another.
I agree, it feels clunky. However I think it should be done so that the CD is still there unless the shield has been up for x amount of seconds.