(REPLAY) Losing to Mauga as Hog

They were fine at the start of the game. The only thing they did that was bad was wasting an ult. If anything I’d actually say you were the one underperforming because you were playing to passive.

No one is given a right to complain if you make a bad play, honestly this a purely entitled and toxic mindset.
As for throwing, by making no input in a situation that killed the Ana that’s throwing.

If they were trying to do that they definitely were wasting their time. You do that yourself.

Maybe to someone who doesn’t play sombra it seems fine, notice how at the end their aim got better and they started beating the ana?

Kind of funny you want me to admit that I said they got better but you won’t admit they were doing bad

People are avoiding ranked, the most op hero since Brigitte and you want me to play aggressive against him when he counters me and he has a pocketed sojourn and I somehow have to kill all 3 alone, okay I’d like to see you face Mauga on hog

And there’s nothing wrong with that, actually criticism I’d different from being toxic but people don’t like learning

I killed the ana, but the dps lost the game

I don’t rank shame, I ask people to do simple things like asking Anas to stop aim down sights to heal me.

It stuff like this i reply for you need to imagine o don’t play sombra to make a point.

You can do fine at the start and get better.
As for you coping on the hope I’m just bias…

Yes i won’t admit they did bad… Lmao.

You didn’t even engage and were last into the fight and first to back out. Not a question of aggressive but more on how much of your kit you used.

It’s not a big deal because it’s first fight but to you it is because you had an issue with the Sombra. I’m not holding you to my standards btw but your own. Basically, you agree you as bad as the sombra maybe even worse or say you were wrong about the sombra.

  1. So you expect some to listen, learn while you go afk and get no value and still win games… Lol.
  2. The point of the game is for you to get better not teach randoms.
  3. You actively made the game worse by trying to do this.

As for criticism there is a time and a place and unsolicited advice is toxic and useless.

You have in this topic…

Honestly, i love it and i find this so interesting.

Before I respond, do you want real advice on how you could improve, or are you posting this just to vent? If it’s the second, I’m not going to waste my time here.

shows your bias

that’s why i lived so long

yep

i am better, in literally any match beside this where i have non optimal teammates

you can’t rank shame people in higher elos than yourself, never happened before in history and never will

you don’t find it interesting at all

Good to have you back after your month susp… break.

Honestly wasn’t gonna reply but this made me laugh a lot.

Incase your new to scarasm. I was quoting myself where i legit called em bad. I guess you missed that totally… Haha.

Thanks for that.

My suspension was based on being reported for my definition of throwing and not yours, because I use the definition that everyone else uses and not some made up stuff.

Moral victory is 2nd to an actual victory

You lost in that game tho?

I stand corrected

I wouldn’t mind OP getting a boot for a few weeks.

My god man, no self-awareness, no accountability. Just petulant rage. I’d rather have your teammates than you any day.

Human beings do not need your approval to exist, I will not quite myself to come down to your level.

Wait, are you still angry over a game you lost around four months ago?

ngl, that’s dedication.

you should post this rant on the competitive forums, not general discussions

It’s more so the 6 people who came into white knight for the players I criticized

Not the same situation although you think it is, you’re having an adverse reaction to a vocal person.

Being vocal isn’t morally bad, it just offends you that I’m not nice

Yup that tends to do the trick in polite society. When we treat people like :poop: right off the bat, they don’t react kindly to it.

Anyway, this is all just dragging out a post that we realistically can’t discuss anymore. We can’t even watch the replay to form our own opinions over what went on.

Instead we all just have to read the entire thread to even have a chance to know what went on here. And then… what? Pick sides based on who we think was being less of an a-hole at the time?

I’d highly encourage moving on from this thread OP, there has been too much water under the bridge. If you hate these people and their opinions so much, why not just put them on ignore?

Watched the replay, peak silver mindset of “my team is the issue and I’m not”. You should never be focusing on teammates who are underperformimg and instead focus on what you could have done better in this situation such as going afk multiple times.

Yeah sometimes teammates are the issue but if you want to actually improve you should be focusing on yourself. Such as what could’ve you done better, is it my positioning or aim, and set win conditions for the hero you’re playing.

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the problem is not that you didn’t enter the cage, but you entered the cage after Ana was fighting Magua for already 20 seconds and was at 1HP

except they weren’t, they pointed out that your DPS wasn’t stellar, however that doesn’t justify disregarding your mistakes

you can’t just blame your teammates and disregard your own mistakes,

or even bad aim, I watched this one clip posted by Kizunas:

in the clip you start out strong, despite missing the Hook, you land a clean headshot on Soldier dropping him at 1HP,

then you shoot for 2nd time and miss him entirely,

then you shoot your 3rd shot and only hit his feet because he jumped,

your 4th shot I had to slow down to x0,25 speed, but what happened was you shot with your gun, and then milisecond after you flicked on Soldier, missing 90% of your damage again

and finally on your 5th shot you were able to kill soldier,

  • this already gives me an idea what happened, you were holding your left mouse button but either you weren’t fast enough to adjust to the shooting speed of your shotgun or your reflexes aren’t honed out quite yet

then you afk for like solid 7-8 seconds (facing your back against the battle)

as you turn around you hear Magua ultimate,

you see Ana ulted by Magua, and her being focused, she’s dead in mele range but surprisingly not instadying avoiding some of Magua’s shots,

you recoil and take 2 steps back,

then you find courage to walk inside the ult to try to save Ana, as you walk in and get trapped, Ana instantly dies followed by your inevitable death due to team diff

  • what you did wasn’t ultimately terrible but to say it was perfect would be a lie:
  • if you didn’t afk perhaps you could have saved Ana, you had your hook available long before you (hesitantly) entered the Magua’s ultimate
  • for an instance where for whatever reason, you think you might not make it you could have also opted for leaving Ana to die because she was low and out of her abilities, to perhaps rejoin with the remaining part of your team, you dying there wouldn’t really help, your following death after Ana granted enemy Sojourn 10% of ultimate and Mercy 5ish% of her ultimate

On final note, watching someone play will always be more backseat biased than experiencing the game head on, unless the backseating is overdone you can basically find all mistakes that could have been done better or avoided, for instance I blamed you for taking your time to kill Soldier but I must admit that I may if not 5 shots would probably still need like 3 or 4 shots to kill the Soldier, which while isn’t something way better, all the small things can add up, as in shooters the sooner you kill someone the sooner you get to shoot someone else or progress towards an objective/area… (also do note that if you did miss your 5th shot on soldier he would be able to fall behind cover)

One final sentence to ease my feedback but hit you with hard reality:
Your team was probably semi-trash, your sombra was absolute dog at least in the only clip I watched, but let’s not pretend you played perfect and that there isn’t much that you could have done better, there’s clearly a consistent streak of miss-accuracy or mistakes being presented every 10 or less seconds…

Not being nice doesn’t mean anything, being offended is your problem

A diamond Sombra and a bronze tracer died to a silver ana 3 times before finally killing her, meanwhile I had to try and kill a pocketed sojourn and a Mauga as Hog.

I was reported and banned for real throwing, which proves that being afk to type doesnt count as throwing

As I said I wanted to die with my ana who did a lot for me, I hesitated because I don’t feed at the end of team fights.
Ice been playing for 5 and a half years, Ive learnt that much

There’s a reason he didn’t post the Sombras gameplay

I don’t consider a Squishies sweating their space bar out at the end of a team fight a threat, missing shots is a universal thing

Being stupid and dying is not courage,

If course you did. Mauga is just a better Roadhog. Mauga will always win the 1v1, under general circumstances.

Swap to a Tank that doesn’t feed the Mauga. Like Orisa, Junker Queen, Sigma or D.Va.

Rank doesn’t matter in this situation, stop focusing on under performing teammates and focus on what you’re doing instead. Teammates will always be a uncontrollable variable while you are the controllable variable.

It is throwing, you went AFK when Mauga ulted and left your Ana to die, you sold the match right there.

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