Releasing 6v6 tests in unideal conditions

Possibly.

I just want them to give it a fair shot. And clearly they can’t market it the same as LE SSERAFIM. I mean, you can’t compete with that - that’s a pretty awesome collab so I understand they advertise it more.

But, dang. Make it known. Make the tests known! Not even a tweet!

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Also loads of content creators making videos about or streaming it!

Really quite hard to miss!

Also this!

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I gotta be honest I was kinda looking forward to 6v6 but the first test was when I was playing MR so I only got 3 or 4 matches in and this new test I don’t care for as much since its open queue and it’s been disabled for QP for like a week now so I haven’t gotten to play a match yet

My primary complaint, again, is that they sprinkle it in amidst other things and it’s not the focus

If content creators are making videos about it - great! What if someone doesn’t follow content creators, though?

In my opinion!

If 6v6 is as good as believed then it simply wouldn’t need a massive marketing campaign behind it to get players to play it!

People would know about it via:

  • Word of mouth
  • Prior knowledge that further tests would be underway
  • It’s right there on the comp main screen for players to pick
  • 6v6ers singing its praises from the rooftops declaring its return

I find it very hard to believe that a player genuinely interested in 6v6 would - after all of the above - still somehow be unaware of it!

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Well if they dont follow content creators and they dont follow the blogs and they do not follow the development updates and they do not watch the season trailers then they are not really going to be playing 6v6 anyway because they are not interested in Overwatch at all.

In fact I’d be very surprised if the percentage isn’t a good bit higher this time around with so many major streamers playing it (amounts to free advertisement) and it being competitive which attracts dedicated players that will likely grind it!

Not to mention it being open queue so in my view inherently better than the RQ prior test!

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Also it makes little sense for them to do a massive blog post about it for each and every test when A) they’ve already done that about 6v6 as a whole and B) we all already know what 6v6 is and what it entails with only a few minor differences of note - there’s only so much you can say about the addition of 2 players!

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If they don’t know it exists how can they come back to it lol

No one said anything about a blog post. I’m saying even just something in the UI or a Tweet is simple enough. But it isn’t :person_shrugging:

Ive always said it, it does feels devs are actively sabotaging the 6v6 modes just sonthey can say “wE tOlD yOu So” andncontinue down the 5v5 down spiral

All they had to do was to remove the S9 changes and make it 2-2-2 along with a main card in both QP and Comp, thats all they had to do!!

But nooo they have to make some random ahh choices that just makes everything worse

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For what it’s worth, I was bombarded for weeks by gaming news outlets with articles about the first 6v6 test. I think anyone existing in online social spaces that have anything to do with gaming would’ve seen the same.

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What if people don’t follow twitter though?

And I’m PRETTY SURE YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE UI

Its cute that you think they want 6v6 to succeed… they purposefully release the worst itterationsand still it comes out more fun than 5v5…
If they put their efforts into making 6v6 as good as it can be… they’d probably be unable to argue not going back to it… but going back on that as well after on Fire, free heroes, Lootboxes, etc… it would mean all OW2 was for was to upgrade the cashshop
(which is totally was but that doesn’t sound so good on paper for non-involved people, giving bad PR)

I already addressed that, though.

That would have been clean and simple. During the last OW Classic mode, they had it up there as well.

I don’t think they are intentionally self-sabotaging, though. I think they’re releasing these tests on a timetable and that happens to coincidentally overlap with other events that just…simply make more sense to focus on. If I was LE SSERAFIM’s record label or marketing manager, I’d want them to prioritize our collaboration over their game mode.

My frustration is mostly that we’re on the 3rd playtest, and it’s off to a rocky start. Bugged so it can’t be released into QP, mentioned in media as what feels like a quick add-in and the focus is primarily on several other things, and not even mentioned on certain platforms.

At least for this one, patch notes, including hotfixes, affect 6v6 too. That’s actually a good sign to me.

The tests don’t give proper engagement data because they are considered gimmicks by most players.

If Blizzard will tell us “unfortunately only 10% of the players tried 6v6, that’s why we’re scrapping it”, then you know the test is rigged.

For example almost no one asked for 5v5 going into OW2, yet they forced it on everyone.

If they want to make 6v6 a permanent mode, they’ll do so. They don’t need a 50% participation rate during the play test.

6v6 and 5v5 can coexist. But they have to reduce the number of playable game modes, because there are too many queues right now, which doesn’t help with queue times.

They also have to fix 5v5 anyway, with or without 6v6.
There is still much more that can be done to 5v5 to make it enjoyable for everyone.

I mean, sure. But at same time, with this short timeframe? Is easily missable. On both cases the time they were “available” were pretty small.

Keep in mind that most folks moved on for other games due RQ and/or 5v5. While word of mouth can make wonders, takes time. A month is not exactly a big timeframe, even less if you account freja weekend not being playable, lack of qp without a reasonable reason, effort to give a shot towards a company that treated them with carrot and stick?

I mean, why not simply make it a fix thing even if is under arcade? The qp bug is a joke, due is pretty much game browser preset and an half version of comp.

Is easy to have doubts, lack of trust and not exactly being willing to take a leap of faith to be frustrated when the mode leaves.

They chose to hinder players fun, while they could simply moved it towards arcade. Yet, there are folks willing to play it, even after all those bad things the company did to them. I wouldn’t blame folks to not jump on the wagon if is not a fix thing, tho.

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Funny enough, I would say that would be a higher percentile than mystery heroes or total mayhem or assault maps under arcade. Maybe all them combined.

I have had more fun playin 6v6 today than all of that 5v5 garbage. Only reinstalled the game cause of 6v6. Once they take it away i will uninstall again untill they bring it back.

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It was a 34 minute video actually because it’s just a clip from the spotlight! Most people watched the whole spotlight.

Anyway, I knew 6v6 comp was coming because of the spotlight but I wouldn’t have known it arrived with the mid season patch otherwise because nothing in the battle.net app or in-game advertised it arriving! I was worried it hadn’t come and timidly opened the comp tab to see if it made it. You would think it would be on the pop up when you open battle.net or the event scrolly thing in the app but that just has GOATS, le serrefim and widow’s mythic gun adverts. It’s disappointing.