Reinhardt Passive Idea vs. CQC stuns

Bu-but Orisa’s problem isn’t about CC like other tanks…

I want Orisa to be buffed, I really do, but not like that. She unlike other main tanks is about ranged damage, but she kinda sucks at that. I think faster projectiles or a small spread will put her in a healthy spot. But if you ask any Orisa player about why is she getting less pickrates, they will say that she doesn’t synergies with many other characters and that she’s more like a map dependent on defense, not because of CC.

And about Reinhardt, I really wish that bug fixes will be enough to make him a good character again because that’s most likely what we will get. But if Hanzo is nerfed to be on par with other dps then Reinhardt’s pick rates will fall drastically.

Well I guess I was referring to maybe adding an anti-knockback/gravitation aspect to Orisa’s ultimate.

Stop trying to change one of the most balanced character

That’s crazy OP mate…

Why is that?

It’s only got 200 HP, and a cast time.
And it’s not all CC.

If anything, it would cannibalize a lot of Rein’s inflated pickrate to deal with GravDragons.

A better way to effect Reinhardts “inflated” pick rates is by nerfing Hanzo to be as strong as any other dps. Orisa is way more balanced than Reinhardt since we are making the comparison, and buffing her like that will benefit everyone in her team against every other character with soft CC. Buffing her ultimate like that means that everyone will be immune to knock backs and an ultimate. This will also be an indirect nerf to Zarya, a character that has been balanced for a long time. She doesn’t deserve that.

You’re forgetting how well Rein combos with Brig. Rein pickrates would still be fine.

And given how there’s going to be 3x viable CC heroes added next patch, it might be a good idea that anti-CC becomes a thing.

Would be nice to move away from Zenyatta being a mandatory pick.

This also applies to Reinhardt getting a form anti-CC as well. And you also forgot that Reinhardt gets hard countered by Brigitte.

Her pick rates aren’t as high as him, this means she not the only reason why he’s picked more than other main tanks. If you’re a main tanks main you would know that they’re meta dependent, they never create or shape metas but go with them. That’s why Winston was the most picked main tank during dive and now Reinhardt is because Brigitte, Zarya and most importantly Hanzo, despite his whole kit being bugged as hell and an ultimate that doesn’t work most of the time. Main tanks true strength is their synergies with other characters, and Orisa doesn’t have the luxury of that like Reinhardt and Winston. the only true synergy she has that I could think of is with Bastion and Torbjorn. Roadhog too but he’s more like a solo player and tends to away from her most of the time.

Orisa needs some tweaks to her kit, and more characters to synergies with, and I think the new character, Hammond, does exactly that.

Let me ask a simple question. So you think Hanzo Ult with Graviton is ever going to be made to not require a Zenyatta to counter it?

Perhaps we’re in a new permanent reality where GravDragons will dominate the meta.

(Because I really doubt they would ever nerf Hanzo hard enough to change that)

And having only one way to deal with that is horrible game design.

too much loophole.

could spam rasie it right before they happen and even just get effected by not even havign the effects hit shield but come from behind him.

also Mei’s freeze would be completely wasted vs him if all it did was lower shield.

The new Symmetra can move her team out of grav, unless Hanzo is directly near them. Zen is indeed a must pick against that combo, but Sym will be another option as soon as she hit live.

It’s not fast enough most the time.

You misinterpreted this, this is only active with his shield up, not during the deploying of his shield. Mei’s freeze and other nature of stuns + displacements would be unaffected by this.

In The current Meta, Hanzo, Zarya, and Junkrat can still easily eat through his shield.

Without a Brigitte or Lucio on his team, He can get overwhelmed by majority of the roster.

He provides a bare minimum in terms of CC, and his shield is pretty easy to eat through with the characters I’ve listed.

He can easily be booped and maneuvered with just about every CC present in the game.

Without the help of Others, Reinhardt is a very vulnerable character, can’t soak up as much damage as the likes of roadhog, D.va, and now Hammond, and has lower survivability in conparison to any tank present in the game.