I will directly get to the point: Reinhardt is in really weak right now against almost all other heroes. For example, his shield gets destroyed in 6 seconds by dps heroes like junkrat, soldier, doomfist. Sombra disables him completely. He is considered dead if reaper gets even in close range from him.
He is also outclassed by other tank heroes who do phenomenal job of protecting team and doing fair amount of damage with their available abilities and kits than Rein. It feels pointless while picking Rein when you can pick other tank heroes.
Orrisa has specially made Rein obsolete. She can put her 2000 HP shield every 6 seconds which could be almost considered as movable shield and thus offers ton more Shield HP than Rein’s. She can shoot ranged enemies and also control the positioning of other players using her gravitational pull. Why would you pick Rein when you can do all his jobs more effectively as Orrisa.
My suggestion for Rein buffs. You can implement ANY ONE of these:
1. Shield Buff:
Triple the HP of shield. Yes. Triple it to 6000 HP. Because this will encourage dps players to come to rein to kill him instead of siting at a long range and destroying the shield in 5-6 seconds. Rein can also have a fair fight because enemy is in range of his hammer. It is also fair to dps players that can do one on one fight with rein like doomfist, reaper, pharah, sombra, etc.
2. Firestrike Buff:
Allow rein to use firestrike ability without need to lift his shield. The current firestrike not only exposes himself, but also his team to enemy fire for 1 second. Being able to use firestrike without removing shield will also add surprise element for enemy team because right now you can easily predict the firestrike when shield comes down and counter it by moving away.
3. Some other firestrike buff:
The firestrike flame will travel in horizontal arc, instead of vertical. This will allow it to hit more enemies and hard to counter. This also means that enemies cannot just stand in front of his shield in distance and shoot at him, they need to be alert for this firestrike which is pretty hard to avoid because of its large range. The travel speed should also be increased slightly.
What do you guys think?
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He is currently second in pick rate overall and in every single high tier of play and with a win rate well over 50% overall.
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It’s crazy how a hero’s pickrate can skyrocket without a single change to the hero.
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I disagree and do not think that Reinhardt is any need of a buff, I’d like his charge to have all of it’s bugs fixed, but that’s about it.
His shield health is low enough to not allow him to stall too much, imagine if you had a 6000 hp shield and Orisa shields every 8 seconds. It would be impossible to break.
Lowering your shield to firestrike is intentionally a dangerous move. Also, the hitbox on firestrike is already massive.
I don’t mean to put you down or anything. I think it has been a rough time for Rein in the dive meta, but I personally think he is in a good spot and this is coming from someone who mains him in masters. Let me know if you want to talk about Rein more, I’d be happy to discuss it more in depth and I’d be open to changing my mind on him.
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That might be because of Briggite comps right now, as he counters briggite pretty hard. But when this comp dies, he will go back to being unfavorable pick.
His win rate is so high right now, while DVA winston and Hog are all at the bottom. They need buffs, Rein is fine. He is picked often and his win rate is good.
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My only issue with Rein shield is that it can come down very easily as compared to orrisa. But I agree to your point also, it will be very annoying to break through both orrisa and rein shield when they are on same team.
This is actually interesting ideas.
Not saying it should or not be added but the fact that the shield is weak against long range ennemy is a true fact.
Easy to destroy and stay far away from him and then avoiding any contact from his hammer.
I really like the idea of the horizontal fire, you described very well how it’s easy to avoid and anticipate and this little change of axis can make a difference.
I would like to see it changed to horizontal too.
He doesn’t counter Brigitte, but he synergises with her better than the other tanks so he’s used more than them.
Allow rein to use firestrike ability without need to lift his shield. The current firestrike not only exposes himself, but also his team to enemy fire for 1 second. Being able to use firestrike without removing shield will also add surprise element for enemy team because right now you can easily predict the firestrike when shield comes down and counter it by moving away.
I very much disagree. The risk is what makes Firestrike fun and tactical. If you could just spam it safely from behind your shield, it won’t be nearly as fun.
And 6000 HPS shield is way too much.
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Well, during dive he was like the fourth most picked hero and by far the most picked main tank.
He never went away, people just pretended he did.
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What Reinhardt needs right now:
- Brigitte’s shield bash is no longer considered a melee strike
Currently Baguette’s shield bash is considered a melee strike which enables her to stun enemies through barriers. The only heroes affected by this are Reinhardt, Winston, Orisa and Symmetra. Aside from Orisa all these other heroes are countered by Baguette and are vulnerable especially against her shield bash. We believe that this change while being minimal will make playing these heroes against her more fair and less frustrating.
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Yeah, I’m right there with you, its really frustrating with how fast it breaks and it’s near impossible when they have a Junkrat or Bastion. I feel like that just means you have to switch honestly.
I’m not an expert on balancing, so I don’t know how tricky it is to make sure that the shields are not overwhelming, but I feel like with Brigitte, Rein, Orisa, and Mei we are already pretty close to it being there.
Rein is mostly fine. The only buff he could use is something to protect him from CC while his shield is up. That’s it.
All the people screaming for buffs for every hero is going to lead to some serious power creep and lack of diversity. Reinhardt is Reinhardt.
Just imagine a Rein running around smacking people with a pool noodle.
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If you could just spam it safely from behind your shield, it won’t be nearly as fun.
How can you “SPAM” an ability with 6 second cooldown?
This and Speedo Hog are literally the only buffs we need to tanks and they better come during summer games
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Yes, Blizzard, please. I need it.