Forces you to use a moveable shield or it’s a team wipe - only one tank has a movable shield.
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I don’t think any other character in this game can counter their own ult that hard. Like wow.
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The utility of his portable wall and ult make him probably the best tank.
I’ve had teams from bronze to plat tell me to play Rein because they didn’t know how to play with an Orisa or they didn’t want to.
Because of this, I have about 100 hours (second most played) on a hero I don’t even want to play or main. Orisa sits at about fourth with 72 hours.
If Orisa could offer a different main tank style than Rein and Winston, then hopefully we get more main tanks that do the same.
Rein is buggy, sure, but he is still better than Orisa, which is odd.
If Winston is the Dive tank and Orisa is the anchor/pirate ship/whatever tank, Rein is basically every other option/comp tank.
I find Orisa more than just an anchor down tank, but people on the ladder tell me to switch to Rein no matter what.
In the Brig meta, Orisa wasn’t even played despite having CC immunity, and instead it was Rein/Zarya.
I’m not sure if Rein needs a nerf, the other main tanks just don’t have the same versatility as he does. Which is, again, quite odd considering his bugs and whatnot.
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Even if someone has to be the best, the gap between him and the other ranks is way too wide.
Shatter being way too good and only counterable by another Rein has always been an issue and the devs have constantly ignored it.
You can’t even avoid it by getting on higher ground sometimes, it even travels through payloads and up on top of them, even if the payload doesn’t touch the ground
For a start, it shouldn’t travel up anything more than a slope, or on top of or through payloads, and Orisa’s fortify should block it for anyone behind her. And Orisa should be able to move her shield at will with no CD, but without the health refreshing unless it’s off CD.
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It’s not easy, and might take drastic changes upon each tank, but it’s their JOB!
I would work for them doing this kind of stuff for 1/4 of their paycheck
he is essentially a big shield with a massive stun. no other tank can compete unless they start ult tracking and predicting his shatters which you can deny with stuns and shields of your own.
zarya can block it, winston can block it, orisa can block it and also rein, and sym can block aswell and also mei.
his shield can be bypassed by just having better angles against him and those he tries to protect or you can also just stun or disable or boop him out of the way which a lot of heroes can actually do. there is actually a lot that reinhardt hates to deal with and it’s usually CC based that ignores his shield or can get around his shield.
aside from mobility, one thing that rein trump orisa is the fact that rein is very dangerous up close. overwatch being extremely objective based means that players will inevitably fight each other in very close range. while orisa is fairly effective as a bunker tank once the enemy team gets within close range to contest a point, she’s very very hard to get value out off.
Give me the salt my Lucio-ohs need
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Yeah, if Rein charges Orisa, she’s just dead. Doesn’t matter if she Fortifies and avoids the charge damage, she’s still suddenly got a Rein in her face with his hammer and more health than her.
Rein should take some serious damage and/or get stunned or knocked down if he charges into Fortify.
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This and it’s only going to get worse cause orisa and monkey are affected way more by the armor nerf than rein is.
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That is why I kinda expected Ham-ball be a counter. But it seems he is not bad but not a counter either
There’s been a general de-evolution of Overwatch over the year, the ladder is so used to Reinhardt that people can’t play with any other main tank and you get called out for throwing for playing Winston, Orisa or god forbid Wrecking Ball - you don’t specialize in a main tank role anymore, you main Reinhardt. That’s why I’m going back to playing Lucio, he’s the only S Tier character that no one complains about anymore and I can contest point better than any tank can with him.
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You could always try to shoot him in the head? I hear headshots deals more damage.
Thinking…
what any person think when is imagining a warrior tank?
what historically were warrior tanks?
why reinvent the wheel when millennia has refined the role?
it’s literally your subconscious that tell you what work in the end, others choices are gimmicky sadly
Actually Orisa’s match ups vs every other main tank and D.va have improved a lot on PTR because of the armour change, she wrecks D.va and is more 50/50 vs Reinhardt now so it’s not a complete loss considering how often those two tanks are directly in your face. The big problem comes from the damage buff to Roadhog, Zarya, Tracer and Sombra, because those are the characters who can just muzzle stuff you or run circles around you either way.
It is his shield and his ULT.
If there is a Rein in the game you need something to counter him just walking up to the point and stunning half you team and winning. Even if you lose every mid fight his ult is that good he can outright win with it.
That counter is another Rein so every game has him
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Reinhardt is most likely a necessity rather than an OP/overperforming character.
He is the only one with a mobile defense tool and engagement skill, plus his damage is not to be trifled with.
“Reinhardt is in every pro AND ladder game”
Here’s the statistics from the last OWWC, enjoy D.va mains…
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