There is Hog… Piggly wiggly with the biggly giggly.
But yeah, I feel like Rein/Zarya are popular, but then I read like a billion complaints about how nobody wants to Rein. So who knows?
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Heh… that’s just the small minority of the forums.
Ppl come on the forums to complain, not say how happy they are playing rein zarya.
Hogs kinda boring imo but thats just me xD
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Nerf their damage, and no one respects their space. The space they’re supposed to hold (excluding Rien)
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Make them Tanks high survivability, low damage, make it so theyre as dependant on the dps as the dps are of tanks
please please NO…
i hate this idea yet its suggested so much.
DONT make tanks giant punching bags.
not only would that make tanking incredibly unfun, but they wouldn’t even be tanks anymore. but rather just pests that stand in your way. you could simply, ignore them.
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B-b-but you can one shot dps mains. And also heal yourself for when supports are busy texting their homies. And, um, shred other tanks with your ultimate. What is more fun than roleplaying as a ThiccBuddha, only he isn’t a Buddha?
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Note to Yourself and ThiccBuddha i dont actually want this, but in response to malbosiiq saying tanks “need to be TANKS”
Tell me what DPS is horrible atm… Bastion and Sombra ok… because of there design. You could argue for Pharah because hitscan is that strong and Echo makes her job just better. But other than that?
McCree just power creeped all other dps with his 4 buffs and eliminated the effectiveness of herors like Symmetra, Mei, Junkrat and so on in their niches and just is straight out better than Soldier or Ashe.
What gatekeeps Rein for tanks? Winston is not played because of all the stuns and mainly McCree and Hog just destroy him. Cow is not played because she got nerfed completly into uselessness, Sigma is not played because he can’t solo main tank and got also hard nerfed.
I mean even Dva sees a good bunch of play so does Hog. Rein is currently just the only MT that is not completely useless at his job.
I think the DPS role is balanced for the most part it’s just tanks are slightly underperforming, imo.
Symm is mainly countered by rein zarya actually, not cree, cree and symm dont have much interactions in a normal game
Orisa isnt played because her shield is a lot worse than reins, and only works well in defense.
Winston isnt played because he doesnt do his job against rein zarya, hog isnt played either, actually winston is played more than hog, winston wont work against a comp that can just push past him with the entire team being there, the fault of brawl.
Dva is the only other tank that sees a little bit of proper play, alongside ball, not sure where hog being more picked than them would come from.
Torb, Symm, bastion, Sombra, Reaper, Soldie,r Genji, Pharah, echo, and mei even, pharah being the best out of those. everyone until pharah has a below .07% pickrate
Rein doesn’t need a nerf, just people need to stop playing every tank like rein
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Yeah… this is so true lol.
people only know how to brawl. this game really needs a better tutorial system.
In qp i see SO OFTEn orisas literally run at enemy reins… Like, I dont think they realize they have a no fall off gun -_-
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Rein be like, “oh, you’re approaching me?”
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Zarya/d.va and rein be smirking at each other as the enemy orisa sigma comp comes running towards them 
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No, just no. Even a Rein with full shield can get destroyed in 1 sec if people focus fire him and he cant dodge behind a corner quick enough.
What we need is for the other tanks to get some small buffs and for damage to get reigned in a little so your less dependent on a barrier to not get blown up in an instant.
It should not even be big changes, cause at the top level most tanks are already viable.
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Even if you make every tank lose HP while they are moving, there will always be 2 that stands out over the rest.
It dosnt mean that those 2 are OP.
The tank role currently works just like that, people play the 2 hero that is the least bad until they get nerfed, suddenly 2 other tank becomes the least bad and people will complain because they see them every match now.
2 tank standing out over the rest is not nearly as much of an issue, compared to when 2 dps stands out, simply because of the number of heroes in the category.
If one hero performs better over 20+ hero, that is the problem with the 1,and not the 20. That is almost 100% sure.
But the problem is that tank is already a very restricted hero pool, they cannot afford to always just nerf the outlier and buff the other few with unnecessary stuff. Because thats how we got here.
Every tank is just a shadow of its former self, and even the 2 most picked hero in the role is miserable to play.
Yet they are somehow treated the same as a DPS who is twice as strong as he/she was and overall feels better to play than ever (in the most popular role i might add).
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Rein Zarya wasnt meta anymore since Goats
Rein Zarya gets played over Dva only on ladder because there are far more zarya mains then Dva mains, but Rien/Dva is still better
Beside that: Rein overall isnt wven Meta often
Rein was Meta 2016 until triple tank nerfs came so Dive got Meta. Dive and Spam kept being Meta until late 2018 where Goats started, Goats ended mid 2019 and we had mutliple Orisa metas till Dva buffs march 2020 wich made Rein meta for 2 months again just to be replaced with Doubleshield again and then we had many spam Metas till natch 2021 again
I gonna list now how many tomes he has been Meta (exclude the time before 2017 because at this time we only had 2 maintanks anyway so ofcause he gets played at this time. Its also really hatd to see what was Mdta before 2017)
Winston: 19months (2 from 2020, 1from floats, 9 from Dive, 7 from Spam/Dive)
Rein: 16months (9 from goats, 2 from 2020, 3 from 2021, 2 from after 2017tripletank)
Orisa: 17months (2 from 2018 Spam, 3 from Oriss+Dva/Hog, 4 from OG doubleshield, 2 from poke doubleshield, 5 from Tripleshield, 1 from late 2020 tripleshield)
Ball: 4 months (Ball+Dva/Sig)
So: Beside Ball Rein is the least used Maintank throughout the Metas
Neither of those tanks need to be nerfed. Other tanks need to be buffed/adjusted and healing creep needs to go down. Power creep isn’t as prevalent this year than last year but it should also be addressed.
Rein’s only being played because other tanks suck on ladder, Bap is OP with his IF and Zarya synergies the best with Rein.
Rein is PROBABLY ok now but Zarya makes him too strong, and she is currently the top performing tank. Put 1 extra second cooldown on her ally bubble and see what happens.
Buff Orisa (200 more shield health), Hog (reduced ult generation compared to other heroes if shot by enemies), Winston (1s off jump pack cooldown), Dva (increased DM length), Ball (1s off shield cooldown), and Sigma (shield cooldown). And this should go hand in hand with changes to the OP DPS and Ana (bionade) but no point turning this into an essay.
This proves absolutely nothing.
Know what Nerfing tanks HAS proven? - DPS Queue times increasing.
Want to know why? - Tanks just quit queueing.
Want to know how to get more tanks playing and REDUCE your queue times? - Buff tanks
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