OP means Overpowered, and that is the one thing Rein has NEVER been and likely NEVER will be. Rein is anchoring? Congrats he is doing his job as a shield bot. You know why he’s “mandatory”? Because they overnerfed the only 2 heroes that could be chosen INSTEAD of him to Anchor and protect a team. Congrats on lack of critical thinking, want a cookie?
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Well hes so fun hes getting nerfed so 
That’s because the devs are setting up an obligatory Rein meta.
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I mean, when you have everyone cry a river about every other “decent” shield tank to the point that they get nerfed to hades, its no surprise that they’d set up an obligatory rein meta.
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Everyone complains when any hero is obligatory. You’re already seeing a lot of complaining about Reinhardt, and some of it isn’t even me doing it.
If you like Reinhardt you should hope they balance him soon, because the longer it goes the lower he’ll go at the end.
Orisa is still viable which shows how busted she is. Sigma is six feet under though.
Hes only obligatory because they overnerfed other heroes, everyone sees that, they just dont care.
He’s already balanced, what they need to do is buff Orisa and Sigma, because they went from A-B tier to F tier.
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I honestly don’t think he’s that far above the other tanks. Reinhardt just has better synergy with all the other tanks.
Most tanks really only pair well with 1 MAYBE 2 other tanks which limits when and where the are effective. Rein kinda can work with anyone for the most part.
Nah. They overbuffed him, too. He needs to be nerfed and they need to be buffed and that’s all the other main tanks, including Winston and Wrecking Ball.
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Just because hes not useless against boops doesn’t mean hes overbuffed lol. I’m not sorry that he can’t be flung off the edge of a map from 15m away from the edge.
But that goes to show how stupid strong booping has become rather than how broke Rein is.
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It’s not just that, it’s the moves faster while shielding thing as well.
You keep saying this but the point being made is that this isnt the same Season 1 Overwatch anymore. The power level has changed a LOT since then. When Rein wasnt being changed much you felt it a lot but now hes been getting radical changes and so has the entire game infrastructure.
You can say it’s not Reins fault all youd like, it doesnt change the fact that he is quite obviously outperforming other heroes in his league. And the devs arent just going to revert the other tank changes to make it go away because itll bring in more problems.
He doesnt need sledgehammer nerfs. He just needs to be brought back in line, they overdid it with his recent changes.
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Like I said before, he never needed to move faster while shielding, he only needed to not be a living pinball.
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How about 50% steadfast but it only counts if he has his shield up? I don’t care if a shielding Rein is boop proof (although it can’t work against halt or Orisa will never be playable again). I just want to be able to get hammering Rein out of my face.
Yes, hes out performing because they overnerfed heroes… like they almost always do, congrats. They HAVE to at least rework Orisa and Sigma and buff/rework them again in some way. There’s no reason not to. There’s no reason to re-nerf one of the legit most balanced heroes ever in overwatch because they went overboard on breaking the game further. (Their balance team is trash, if you havnt noticed this already btw the only good thing is that they are going to be doing changes “faster” hopefully this means they don’t continue to break the game at a faster pace than before)
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I’m fine with variable steadfast if his shield is up, (whether it be 25/35 then 50 or whatever) it’d be a rework and not a nerf imo. I’m fine with it not working against halt. Orisa needs halt to work on Rein, its important for her balance, and Rein’s balance as well. To my knowledge Halt is more of a near instant displacement rather than a “boop” anyways.
Well, sounds reasonable enough. I hope they fix the tank situation soon. I feel fairly excluded from the game right now because they keep ruining hero after hero I like.
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Rein has historically been used as the benchmark tank. Other tanks get buffed and nerfed, but he doesn’t get many changes, so if he suddenly seems too strong or too weak, you know it’s his competition that’s changed.
Besides, pickrates and winrates aside–which are not actually the end-all-be-all of balance–Reinhardt’s just a damned gorgeous tank. He’s great to have on your team, but he’s not frustrating to play against, he provides sufficient reliability for beginners to be able to pick him up and play him without hurting their team, but he also offers scope for skill expression at higher ranks. He’s able to create space and protect his team, just like a tank should, in a way that is very flexible, so he doesn’t require cancer comps to be built around him in order to maximize his effectiveness.
So, yeah. If it seems like we don’t want Reinhardt to be changed on principal, it’s because… we actually genuinely don’t want him changed. There are very few heroes in Overwatch who are practically perfect–we should be using them as an example and getting other heroes to match their quality, not messing with them just so they can become the same amount of broken as other heroes.
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You guys are tossing around rein being op while ignoring all the real weaknesses of him.
1 cannot atk with shield up and has a slight delay before he can atk after dropping it
2 shield hp takes quite some time to recharge hp, and has 4 second delay if broken
3 he is a melee tank who is actually quite easy to keep range on with quite a large portion of the ow roster
4 steadfast while does help with knock back is a huge drawback against whole hog as it barely moves him he takes full dmg for it for yhe duration, and if he happens to be charging into it it literally holds him in place to be destroyed.
5 even with barrier up there’s a number of characters that shred it or can get around it to nail him in the back(which also goes back to fact his shield takes a long time to recharge)
6 earthshatter is very hit or miss hell there’s times it doesn’t even work properly, and there’s so many things that can literally stop it or disrupt it.
I can literally go on, but these recent complaints are stupid and completely ignore all his very glaring weaknesses, and just sound like someone who just doesn’t like dieing to an ult which btw there’s many ults that are far more annoying.
Other tanks being to weak maybe slightly, but that in no way makes rein op.
To the other person who said he should have a 1200 hp shield. That would not work unless it recharged faster as his shield is already easy to burn down as stated above.
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I think Rein is a crutch hero for many players that can’t comprehend playing without a shield.
You never see too many nerf Rein crusades because deep down a lot of people want him usable.
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