Rein is disgustingly OP

Zarya is easier to play than Symmetra idk why people overblow bubble management.

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Bubble management is tinybrain, I agree.

Also roadhog is one of the easiest heroes in the game. Dva is the most complex off tank by far.

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I think people are still stuck on unkillable largely thanks to broken ana shooting her in the butt season 3 D.Va

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Yeah, Melees are uncounterable (only Genji’s deflect counters it) so when you can get less mobility penalty when holding the barrier + can’t be booped back effectively + have the longest lasting barrier in the game, you just throw at this hero mobility boost + peeling + other stuff (nano…) and you get a hero that can rush down the others most of the time while helping to sustain his team with the help of his barrier and melee people while being kept alive while the barrier is regenerating.

Can we tune it down already?

Rein isnt too OP but instead due to having 2 tanks and the other team is limited to 2 dps, tanks will forever be unfun and limited heroes due to how hard it is for any nontank to push them since there’s 2 of them.
Its funny so many of yall hate 1/3/2 but then go back to a mode where you think current Rein is OP lmao.
Its like yall want to be underbuffed slogs to play.
Tanks in 222 aren’t balanced for themselves but instead balanced for their pairing tank.
Buff offtanks for Christ sake if you want something done. It’s obvious.

He’s the strongest tank right now but “disgustingly OP” is definitely a bit much.

He just isn’t easily moved by boops anymore. You can still hook, sleep, shield slam, freeze, hack, charge him. Don’t be overly dramatic.

He also acts like someone’s greased him up and doesn’t pin someone you’re sure is getting pinned. They just slide off his shoulder for some reason. His charge has been badly coded since day 1.

True, they’ve been gutted.

Lucio can speed boost and move his team away from the Rein, instead of moving the Rein away from his team.

I think the main problem, which has again been a problem since day 1, is that Rein is the only true tank. All chokes are designed around his shield, and the protection he offers his team is second to none. Dive tanks work well on organised pro teams, but are pretty mediocre on ladder.

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My argument is that the instant nature of her dm and the mobility that can cover for her mistakes is what makes her the easiest tank to play.

Road hog you have a skill shot, and bubble are harder to pull off perfectly than DM by a good bit. She is by far the easiest tank to play, and that’s exactly wht so many people play her and play her, no matter the nerfs.

Also shes a fat dps. Nuff said

its not that rein is OP its that the other tanks are UP.

honestly, if pig had vape (prehaps a lesser version) from 3-2-1 on live i think orisa/pig or sigma/pig would be strong.

if dva and winston had their 3-2-1 health on live dive would be a thing.

You still need to study D.Va luv

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I actually have a couple clips of Rein charges vaccuuming me from around a corner and then instantly killing me as Reinhardt collided with a wall, as well as one where he vacuumed me from midair.

This thread has convinced me to figure out how to upload directly from Xbox to YouTube

I’ve been playing the game since launch. Why patronize me. I have my opinions, you have yours.

I think Dva is crazy broken and oppressive. I always have. Literally the first post I ever made here 3 years ago was complaining about DVA. That’s why I made an account in the first place.

I was going to make a YT vid showing how horrible Rein is in QP as no one gets any picks before your shield breaks, you then die in 2 seconds if you don’t manage to find cover to recharge, and then you’re told that you’re being useless because you’re not pushing W.

What’s funny is when i play Rein, I NEVER suck people into my charge yet I constantly get sucked into them from spots like where my feet are literally 2 feet above him when I play against him.

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And also sometimes you’ll just charge through somebody, or magically lift them in the air before you’re even close to them … and miss. This is OW, bugs are everywhere.

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I’m not patronizing you. You have stated repeatedly you hate D.Va and have demonstrated that you don’t understand her and don’t want to. That’s fine. But you can’t make sweeping claims about the skill floor or ceiling of a hero you go on and on about wanting to gutter their mediocre ult and expect to be unchallenged.

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I’m waiting on a challenge. Nobody has shown me objective proof that DVA is weak and her ult isn’t strong.

Instead you guys try to tell me how dumb I am and attack my character via ad Hominem instead of attacking my argument.

My argument, a huge aoe explosion that can one shot anyone in the game is indeed very powerful. The zoning capabilities of the ult is even more powerful. Are you saying that it’s not?

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it really isn’t. which isn’t to say it can’t still be good but people for the most part easily deal with dva’s ult.

I wouldn’t call them no skill, but Rein/Zarya is the most broken thing this game has seen in quite a while in my opinion. Been screaming about this since last year but the community is so focused on top 1% stats, which often don’t even affect them, that they don’t see the more serious problems in the game.

They may not receive nerfs for a long time though. The fact that Blizzard buffed Zarya’s right click when she was already statistically OP suggests that Blizz wants a very specific meta.

Right now? No. For the past several months? Her gutter tier pick and winrates don’t count?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe we’ve demonstrated that self-destruct is one of the lowest killing ultimates in the game along with Primal Rage.

I didn’t once call you dumb. I said I don’t think you understand D.Va very well. They’re not the same. I don’t understand Genji very well.

No one is attacking your character when you freely admit repeatedly how much you hate D.Va. You hate D.Va. That’s fine. Don’t expect me to take your suggestions about her with more of a grain of salt than someone like Lumin, who understands her better and won’t suggest changes tailored to their personal biases like gutting her ultimate.

Then why do you want to remove its zoning potential by neutering its damage