Why? She’s already ridiculously overpowered right now…?
Her survivability is already excellent. She loses her mech roughly the same as other tanks die. But unlike them, she gets it back in 2 ways.
Decrease spread? LMAO. She already does more damage than all other tanks. She doesn’t need spread decrease. She is loaded with damage.
Remove the critbox? LOL. She would be the most survivable character in the game.
Her critbox is actually perfectly fine the way it is right now. Neither her critbox nor her matrix will receive any form of buffs because she would be even more ridiculously OP than she is right now.
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The reason why her survivability is the way it is right now is because of DM. It is why she takes as long to die as a Zarya. As without DM she dies faster then Zarya.
Its also the only thing that makes her a tank besides on paper health.
Remove DM and she would be a walking critbox while attacking, you would have to shrink it down to the point it would be better to just remove it to make up for that. It is located center mass where there is 0 chance to miss doing damage after all.
But since you also remove one of the 2 abilities that counter otherwise unstoppable ultimates you would have to make her offensively powerful to make up for that. Hence spread reduction.
Cause the only other counter to those abilities/ults would be Genji.
Removing her critbox would not make her the most survivable character in the game, since it would be tied to removing DM. Roadhog would still be much more survivable thanks to his 300 HP heal with 50% damage resistance. Reinhardt would still be more survivable thanks to his shield, same thing with both winston and orisa and their shield dancing.
A block of HP the size of Roadhog with 0 defensive abilities is not very survivable, even without a critbox. Its just ult charge. The same reason why Roadhog had his sheer power when he had 0 defensives and his way of “tanking” was to body block or just pick people off as a flanker DPS.
The same reason why Roadhog once he lost his sheer power was considered trash till he got damage reduction added to his heal.
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jeff already said they arent nerfing dva O_O
he probably already saw the witch hunt that is to come after mercy
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Tbh the dva rework really didnt help in any way at all it just made everything worse but people didnt think of that because we had the mercy problem at the same time
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When did he ever say that?
No. that should never happen.
That’s what DM is for. Plus she’s the only hero who can’t be critted AT ALL from behind.
in the old overwatch forum, i cant link it in here
put this under the old forum
topic/20761776829#post-10
The only hero that can completely cover her critbox properly and you want the critbox to be reduced…
lol.
Her critbox is also center mass and is the biggest in the game. This makes it the easiest critbox in the game to hit next to torbjorn.
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You can’t headshot D.Va from behind.
Something’s gotta give.
I dont see any difference between the hitbox being in center mass, or higher up? It means you just have to aim at a different spot.
It also means, it cant be shot from behind, and with a Defence Matrix, you cant completely hide your critbox.
‘‘Easiest critbox’’ Please. Orisa says hi.
easiest critbox is definitely for a 200hp hero called torbjorn and i have no idea why. next one is zen for sure.
If you aim at Orisa’s head then any missed shots/pellets simply do not hit her or have to go low enough to bodyshot. She also has Fortify on top of her armor to negate crit bonus. Then there is the barriers she can dance around.
D.Va’s critbox is in the center mass. Either you hit the critbox or you hit the body hitbox. The only way to miss is to miss her model entirely. Rather hard given her size is equal to roadhog. Those who cannot hit a D.Va really ought to reconsider their hero choice.
While D.Va cannot be crit from behind it’s not that big of an advantage. As she would only benefit when disengaging.
When engaging however since the center mass is the easiest area to hit compared to a head her health is cut in half thanks to the critbox. Unless the target simply cannot crit in the first place.
While DM can eat some damage it also only lasts 2 seconds at most. At which point D.Va then melts.
D.Va is also the only tank to have not received a critbox reduction. Even though her critbox hurts her the most and was why she originally had 400 armor.
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Also people who say “she can’t be critted from behind” she also can’t fight back if she is facing away, or use DM against them. You’re basically say she can either fight and be a 300 hp character, or not fight and be free ult charge.
The last thing she needs is a buff. End of.
Her DM can cover her crit box hence why she has not received any reductions. No other tank can do the same, hencewhy they got the reductions. Again, DM can also cover a bit of your hitbox too, and not just your critbox.
Lasts 2 seconds, gives you enough time to get out if you have to, or mow them down with your rockets. She can cover her critbox whilst do damage and fly at the same time. She doesnt need a critbox reduction whatsoever.
Any chance to not get dealt double damage is in fact quite a big advantage…Especially since, all other tanks can get crit from the back, whilst she cant.
She doesnt need any further buffs. She can already do so much as is. If Dva did melt as much as you think she does once a 2 Second DM is done, then she would not be the most picked tank across all ranks athm and in OWL.
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Zarya can also block her own critbox…
Orisa can cover her own critbox with shield dancing. Reinhardt lacks a head sized hole in his shield, and winston can shield dance as well. Not to mention he is incredibly difficult to headshot from the back. Roadhog’s heal moves his critbox and partially covers it with his arm.
Also just like these tanks D.Va cannot cover her critbox to the side. Though just like these tanks you actually stand a chance of missing her critbox and hitbox if going after the critbox from the side.
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I´d gladly pick up the game again if they reduced her critbox and removed missiles.