Alot of people dont even hit the 200 health combo consistently even in the higher ranks.
All it takes is one unlucky crouch or jump and you miss the combo.
Why are you bordering on Plat now if you was GM before you wouldnt be low Diamond borderling Platinum.
Are you sure you didnt have GM back in 2016 when all the characters were balanced terribly and no one knew how to play?
I’ll give you that, Genjis rarely try to take you from full to 0 like that. It’s much more consistent to land a shot or two, then do it for the ‘last’ 150-200, which I’ve seen Genji players do over and over in the same game. But it’s still a much more sudden kill than Reaper can pull off without a literally perfect shot.
So instead of pellets going from 6 to 3, they go from 5.4 to 3.78.
We’re talking less than 1 damage difference, here…a “buff” in just about the loosest sense of the word possible.
Using Wraith to get close enough to BEGIN engaging is literally bronze-level play.
…this isn’t a serious argument, is it?
He can wear you down with normal shots long before you’re anywhere close enough to threaten him, even if they’re all body shots.
Ditto Hanzo, plus he can leap away and climb walls to create even more distance.
Icicles do the same damage as < 30m ADS shots from Ashe, and I did mention Ashe too. My point is, you have a TON of choices in the ‘dps heroes that take a big dump on Reaper with ease’ category.
Yes, but I don’t have my list and don’t feel like recreating it. But as a general reply, don’t forget that Reaper is both a sitting duck that’s practically immobile during his entire ultimate, and that it has a range of only 8m. That should help you realize how easy is it to ruin a Death Blossom.
Yeah, only very low-level Reapers think it’s a good idea to blow your only real ability to begin an engagement.
I still am (close to? I’m definitely at least a little worse than before, because I don’t grind the game like I used to) GM level, but only as Reaper.
I’m mid-high Plat on my account where I play only dps that aren’t Reaper. Fact is, Reaper is a pretty unique hero to be successful with (meaning the stuff that makes you good at other dps’es doesn’t help as much when Reaper, and vice versa), ESPECIALLY before he got those Shadow Step buffs (as someone who’s been playing since a few months after the game came out, the vast majority of my Reaper time was before those buffs).
I got GM basically immediately after Role Queue became a thing, as I was previously always the guy who volunteered to flex when no one else wanted to, even though I wasn’t as good at other heroes. So, that was a downward influence on my SR, and I hovered around Master for a long time. Once flexing to other roles stopped being a thing, I got to GM nearly immediately.
The long dps queue times basically got me to stop wanting to play competitive as dps shortly after (around season 19), especially as I had no desire to grind to T500 (at least not in regular comp…I got there in comp deathmatch and Lucioball :D), and was content that I got my favorite hero to GM, especially as someone who never really was a competitive FPS player.
Cringe insult attempt.
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Yes provided you dont get bubbled not that youd need too since you can just TP to an off angle engage and then wraith away your engagement time will be high too because of the bubbles they even increased the duration of bubbles im pretty sure.
Yeah theyre less consistent though.
What insult I never insulted you you insulted me by calling me delusional.
Despite the fact Reaper was Meta in scrims so clearly he isnt that bad his Mid Tier like a lot of other characters now since most characters are Mid tier now and with support of his team his S tier.
…why on Earth would you spend Wraith if you’re getting bubbled?
Takes like this are why I used the word “delusional”, by the way. You are writing pure, unfiltered nonsense, and I’m identifying it as such, lol.
That’s very different than personally insulting someone’s play with garbage like ‘you sure you didn’t get to GM only when no one knew how to play?’
You use wraith to entry and bubble to stay in the fight while shooting.
You cant shoot while using wraith.
And you wouldnt because theres other solutions like TPing to off angles jumping in and using nothing then wraithing to get out.
Its not a bad take the only characters who arent mid tier are
Tracer, Genji, Sombra, Soldier 76 the rest are midtier with a few being lower you could argue Sojurn is higher than mid tier but anything else is just not true.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/u95828/aggregate_overwatch_2_tier_list_based_on_tier/
Look where people are ranking him this is an aggregate overwatch 2 tierlist based on multiple peoples takes and most people are ranking him as pretty strong.
Heres Karqs list
Average
I’m not going to discuss this hero with someone who actually unironically thinks this is smart.
This is basically equivalent to telling a Sombra player that they should use Hack primarily on targets who are in the middle of shooting at them, or telling an Echo player that her beam should be used primarily on heroes who are at full health.
I’m not exaggerating.
We are clearly on VERY different levels of understanding of this hero, and you make that more and more clear with each post. I’m moving on, lol.
If you are getting bubbled and playing around corners playing somewhat safe it doesnt matter
Were of such different levels of understanding that you are 100-200 elo higher than my alt CiroForel 
Its not my fault your bad and cant realise Reaper isnt even in a bad state his meta/average depending on the rank his not bad.
We could literally play in the same game and id smoke you.
Please, I’ve already cringed enough, have mercy.
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Same elo dude.
If you were so good youd easily be in high diamond your literally coming down to plat no cap.
I’m plat, AS heroes I play casually/sporadically (rarely play on that account period), on an account where I never touch my main when playing dps.
On my main account, playing my main hero, I got to GM in regular comp before I quit in S19, and T500 as the same hero in comp deathmatch.
You need to stay in your lane, Mr. ‘Wraith into the engagement’. Now I’ve gone from cringing to laughing, to know it’s a 2600-2800 who says he’d “smoke me”. The game literally would not let us even GROUP together for comp, I’m so much higher than you are.
Holy lol. Just stop, please.
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How much have you played Reaper in OW2 that you are so sure that this damage is making him unplayably bad? You seriously need to take into consideration fact that there is so much less CC, shields and off tank dedicated to peel for your backline. People in scrims didn’t play him without a reason.
CC and stuff like Matrix was always the reason Reaper was niche pick at best, rarely meta. He was easy to kite and stun to death. Now it changed. I’m seriously asking, how much time did you give him to try despite nerf. It may be too much, but he doesn’t feel unplayable. Just worse than S76 and stuff.
Heroes like ashe, brig, tracer will get tons of tweaks to make them weak or strong. Reaper gets looked at once every two years to nerf or unnerf. Much neglect.
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No source, but armor is flat 30% against all sources now.
Yeah, I was reminded. Did the math, on OW1 live Reaper pellets go from 6 to 3 against armor, on OW2 beta, with the damage nerf, Reaper pellets go from 5.6 to 3.78.
That’s not a difference the average player would even notice, I don’t think. I think it’s understandable that I could easily be led to believe nothing changed re armor, for Reaper, lol. Especially when the spread increase means way fewer pellets are hitting on average, which would muddy the ability to notice a 0.78 damage increase per landed pellet, even more.
Bro your 3200 you can queue with people 1000 apart
wow no shot he got tot GM on comp on the account that doesnt exist and T500 on deathmatch 
stop the cap
Youd get rolled in a 1v1
I’m 4k on my main, do you not know what GM means?
My profile picture for this account, which is my main account, is literally the player icon for T500 deathmatch lmao. I’m not surprised you don’t recognize it, though.
You’re really embarrassing yourself, now. You’re a living “plat chat” stereotype, pitiful.
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Can confirm Reaper is Hot doodoo right now, you can’t kill anything with this big pellet spread.
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It is early in this stage of the beta so I’m not too concerned about the state of him. He’s not bad but he’s definitely weaker than live (obviously).
The combo of the damage nerf and spread being nerfed together feels a bit overkill but that’s understandable when he was apparently a menace in the Alpha.
I’d say they just need to switch his spread numbers back. Keeping the spread at 6 instead of 8 would make players feel less useless outside of point blank range without melting people. I’d also prefer 5.5-5.7 range for his pellet damage instead of 5.4 but that might not be necessary. Just tightening the spread back to where it was is probably all that he’d need.
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Reaper’s damage feels quite weak to me. Unless you sneak up on a completely isolated squishy with no teammates nearby and zero duel potential it’s 50-50 at best.
Have to expend everything and get lucky with missed enemy shots/abilities, etc. to consistently secure kills.
Solutions:
- Revert nerfs
- Soft rework with new secondary ability (maybe something that increases M1 fire rate by a lot and/or boosts lifesteal
- Hard rework into a tank
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