PLEASE update old ults

it definitely is and i dont disagree with them

Well okay thanks for feedback ig :man_shrugging:

would you argue that sojourns ult needs to change because it is also selfish that only she gets to shoot her railgun repeatedly?

You must be low rank to think Widow’s ult is bad

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This would be super fun, but as a DF main, this would be bad lol. You could wipe a whole team in 15s if you know what youre doing. I honestly never hated dooms ult anyway.

Sym wall is bordering on overpowered.

Tbh people have become more efficient in avoiding them too so it kind of balances out the lower team sizes.

However in your examples you seems to suggest that the ults have become more useless. But even if that is the case, wasn’t the less impactful ults what everyone was wanting since OW1?

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some heroes have weak ults to balance out their strong base kits.
if you want them to have better ults, you need to nerf the rest.

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Oh my god I just realized that I’m going to go for a cheeky call mech kill and someone playing lifeweaver will pull me away.

I’ll be hiding around a corner well into the enemy backline only to get yoinked away from a call mech double kill

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No that is when it’s best used as it easily lets flip 1v1 that you wouldn’t have know were happening, counter flank the flankers, set up ults like d.va/shatter/ or anything else with wind up.

Like if you can’t see value in that than that’s a you issue, not an ability issue. Like people litterially cheat to have this sort of feed back.

Don’t ruin the game please.

Old ults are better and beautiful.

Don’t ever touch dva bomb or my dragons.

Hanzo dragons are fantastic ult, if you know how to command them.

Dragons don’t respect weak sauce.

But when a true shimmada commands them

They devour

Dva no I’ve seen dvas who onow how to break shields wait out cool downs etc do amazing stuff consistently. you can do a lot with your bomb tbh.

Everytime I see someone say cassidys ult is bad I wonder if there just echoing the community has been saying/what some streamer said. I’ve always always seen cassidys at least at the very least get 1 consecutive kill with there ult in overwatch 2 it’s actually rare I don’t see them get at least 1 pick. Even rein shatter dosen’t guarente that all the time AND IT’S A STUN.

Widow… I will literally not FREAKING move if I hear a widow ult, DISABLING THE ENTIRE FREAKING ENEMY TEAM IS A PRETTY DAMN GOOD ULT IF YOU ASK ME! I will actively tell my window when I want sights because the information is just soooo valuable to us shot callers. My widow popping sights you literally give your primary shot caller that much more power. (You can argue not everyones in coms but still Ill always play around my widows sight).

The cass ult I think is DEFINITELY suffering from the echo chamber effect. Killing even 1 person in a 5v5 format is devastating.

Nope, sorry I don’t think selfish was the right word for me to use, (which I already said above) and I acknowledge I had a bad take

I was simply wrong. Maybe underwhelming compared to others is a better way to put it

Where is my appolgy for insulting the dragon lineage.

Not useful without some pink haired bubble lady?
In ow2 it’s actually a waste to grav dragon.

I disagree here. This ult was called “wait and don’t play the game” by OWL ex pro and analist Jake. It’s incredibly powerful at the highest ranks.

One thing I noticed is that I hardly ever see Echoes doing much of anything at all with their ult. I think I can count on one hand the amount of double ults I’ve seen since OW2. Now sure, I’m not exactly playing in top500 over here, but maybe when a hero’s Q is heavily tied to general ult economy, and then they do a global 15% ult gain nerf, then perhaps that Q could be retweaked.

I’ve been getting fairly good results by being a bit more slow and patient, zoning and trapping people with it. Lots of people seem to rapidfire all three shots, and I’m not sure if that’s ideal. But I think I still prefer old ult.

Zoning is underrated, I’ve seen many a Hanzo who was doing absolute scumbag dragons pretty consistently (and getting kills with it, directly or indirectly).

What about LW initiating you in with a platform or pulling you through a swathe of enemies with a shield on you?

I don’t think that is really the case, tbh.

Old things are not necessarily bad, it just means they have been in the game for a long time, and that is the case with the ults you’ve mentioned.

Deadeye should accumulate damage faster though, to make it more threatening. But that is as far as I would go.

Pharah ult used to be good to quickly take out a tank. But with Kiriko and new additions even that out of the question. It’s only useful now when you out of ammo as a last attempt to survive. Preferably in 1v1 fight.

Cass: BIG IRON; all shots crit, no reload the entire duration.

Doom: Gigas fist; raises gauntlet into the air for a hard smash into the ground, causing a massive fissure around him. Proximity based damage, and survivors are slowed.

Baston; Remember the screams; same as Cass.

Pharah: Ult fine, just needs movement while ulting.

Widow: Can’t run, can’t hide; Wallhack with bore.

DVa: The big guns; Micro missiles turn into explosive rockets that home, aoe on impact.

Reaper: Same ult, but now has a vacuum effect.

Hanzo: Time for geometry!; Every shot is a scatter shot.

Symmetra; How can she slap!?; A giant hand made of hard light smashes the area.