Why I prefer Lucio. While I’m camping my tank and peeing dive for them, you can pull back to “Group Up” and get Lucio buffs while still DPS’ing, then go back to flanking when healed.
Ive gotten to the point where if im play dps and not getting healed and i see the enemy dps flanking to take out our support i just let them 
it works both ways ill just wait for the regroup or just take the L and chalk it up to support diff
So tell me where in what i said did i say anything in relation to what you are talking about my guy
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Is there a replay code? I’d like to see from a dps perspective. If you’re spamming heal calls and your support is just staring at you not doing anything, THAT is griefing. If your supp isn’t looking at you while you’re spamming heal calls out of THEIR LoS while they’re busy trying to keep the tank alive through some focus fire… like they can’t do both at once unless they have a good AoE heal like Bap, and then hope that it’s not on cd.
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This entire statement destroyed your argument, and that’s why you came at me so defensive. If you don’t want to support, don’t click it.
lol, coming at someone “defensive”
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who are you even talking to or wtf are you talking about dude?? I havent said anything to you on this thread and i asked you to simply tell me where i said anything about w/e it is you replied to me about. Are you high?
I already made my statement, you didn’t like it, and I stand by it. Supports should heal when someone is low, not demand they get health packs, because they Might be near one.
You obviously want an argument, and you’re not getting that from me, good luck baiting someone else though. Bye!
lmao i feel like i’m being punked , Are you mentally ill?
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Now you’re going for personal insults, because you lack an actual argument. Nice try, keyboard warrior.
Keep going though, it’s honestly funny yet sad.
This can’t be real life LMAO what is happening right now, you are without a doubt having w/e rage bait argument you think is happening with yourself. I’m so confused
You’re confused, because you’ve got nothing to back track on, no points to make, or anything other than the typical forum response of “I know more than you.”.
Turns out not.
Look if you wanted to make a point, you didn’t. If you wanted to troll, you failed. If you wanted to insult, well you succeeded, but all it got you was nothing but laughter out of me.
I feel sorry for the trees that have to work overtime to replace the oxygen you waste.
Weren’t you leaving? Didn’t you say bye? You replied to my post 3 hours after i commented and some how we are in an imaginary argument and i’m baiting you. You have got to be unstable. You enjoy fighting them demons buddy
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Someone’s upset they didn’t get an echo chamber. Sad.
Says the guy who instantly got mad and personally attacked someone for disagreeing with them.
You have no grounds to stand on, you got nothing to use, just attacks. You’re nothing but a forum troll.
76 posts and all 76 are you insulting someone. Yikes.
Like you’re supposed to learn a disagreement is not an attack in first grade.
anyway , back to my original comment. TO the OP: My dude make sure there are no ways you can correct yourself within your play style before blaming supports. some of them do suck but we are all responsible for our own survival at the end of the day as well. Good luck bud 
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6k self healing as Queen, compared to Ana with 5k damage and 2k healing, to a Kiri with under 1500 healing, but 4k damage?
That’s not correcting my play, that’s pure supports throwing. Nice try though.
I am STILL not talking to you in my comments. Not a single time have i cared to reply to anything you’ve said. Im talking to the OP OF THIS THREAD NOT YOU, absolute weirdo man
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I am still confused by your stance. I thought you defending counterpicking because the person might not be the best at the game and now you are mad that some support players are bad at the game? Seems a little inconsistent if I am being perfectly honest, Flare-sama. I actually agree with the former stance. You convinced me that it is silly to make fun of counterswappers just because they cannot handle the raw masculine energy that my Reinhardt exudes. It only makes sense that they need to flee to Rammatra.
And that’s the same with support players. I just need to trust them to do their job how THEY see fit. It’s not my job to micromanage them and it’s not their job to micromanage me. If they are busy or think something else is more important, that’s their judgment call. Right? Not trying to bait at all. I am just surprised that you have taken this stance.
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By not healing, cleansing, or anything but DPSing? It’s about 1/3 of my games at this point.
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Correct, they go hand in hand. If the tank is a damage sponge non stop and I’m having to spam heal him, I’ll not have the means to heal the rest of the team as much. If the tank is finding every possible object that’s between me and them, I won’t be able to heal them at all.
I’m not saying that it can’t be the fault of the support, because it very much can, but people tend to immediately jump to the “gg no heals” conclusion without even second guessing themselves.
Tanks need to learn that supports can’t heal them through that pillar they decided to hide behind.
DPS need to learn that I can’t heal them through the double headshot they just got hit by.
You could come up with just about infinite number of “X needs to learn Y”, but I suppose that if you’re heavily biased against a particular role, it’s easier to ignore the major mistakes the other roles make on a regular basis.
This goes for the support as well. There are only so many places I can safely heal the tank from. If the tank moves too far up, I can either do something else and hope they back off in time before they die and let me heal them, or try to move up as well and get my head blown off by a widow.
While it is my responsibility as a support, especially as an Ana, to position well to both stay alive and see my tank, it’s just as much on the tank to be aware of where I am, and more importantly where I can afford to safely move up to help them. I can tell you that many tanks absolutely are not aware of either. Refer to your “X role needs to learn Y” argument.
Yeah that’s not a thing. You’re gonna have to forgive me for not believing that this is anywhere near a regular occurrence.
Same thing, I’m gonna go on a whim and say that doesn’t happens often at all, tho I’m sure you’ll claim that it happens all the time. I’m not even seeing Roadhogs outhealing even one support, let alone JQs. Maybe the odd Zen or Lucio, but even then it’s rare. I really don’t share this experience.
I’m also not talking about you in particular. The classic “gg no healing” is a common coping mechanism for people to fall back onto when they die, without ever considering that they might have made a mistake themselves. That is victim mentality.
And to stay fair, so is “X diff” or other things people commonly use as an excuse for performing badly or losing. Blaming someone else is always easier than introspection. It’s just that since health at 0 means death, and supports have the ability to make your health go up, it’s the easiest things for people to look at for blame.
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