Playing overwatch is like playing in a band

[RexOverwatch-1555]

and 222 is like having someone tell you which instrument to play

there’s a lot more than being in a band than knowing which instrument everyone is going to play

[SuperNinja-2126330]

But you do have your own choice with which role you wanna play no one is telling you to play a certain role

[RexOverwatch-1555]

it still doesn’t solve the problem of which song we’re going to play

this isn’t a knock on 222, it’s a call to look at the bigger issue

namely, creating a team-friendly environment

[Vurg-1970]

Role queue is like playing in a band and there are 2 vocalists, 2 guitarists, and 2 percussionists all willing to play complementary instruments instead of 6 guitarists showing up and instalocking lead guitar…

[RexOverwatch-1555]

2 vocalists, 2 guitarists, and 2 percussionists

and they all play 6 different songs

[SuperNinja-2126330]

I totally agree I mean at least you know have people who are going to be playing a decent team comp even if their not the best on that role they still are going to be playing it

[Vurg-1970]

and they all play 6 different songs

Role queue won’t change how well they play the same song together, but it will at least mean you get people that claimed to want to play the 3 main required roles.

[RexOverwatch-1555]

@Vurg-1970

you get people that claimed to want to play the 3 main required roles.

Proof why roles are never the issue

NOTE: this post is under construction please check back in a week or two 6v6 Turn based combat Damage: 200hp, 1 point of damage per round Support: 200hp, 1 point of healing per round Tank: 400hp, 0.5 points of damage per round Tank2: 400hp, 0.5 points of healing per round it doesn’t matter which roles either team picks, this scenario will always end in a draw, no matter how many rounds your run it for This proves that roles do not matter, it is balance that is the issue. Always has been …

it’s not the roles that matter, it’s a fallacy

[KelRiever-1442]

This is actually a great analogy. (Traditional rock band you’re talking). Because it’s true people line up to play lead guitar and drum, but you have to get about finding bass players, and singers.

You don’t see music teachers lining up trying to force people to play instruments either, because they know it will work out.

But in video game land, there’s really no audience to show off too, and that’s the big difference. Musicians pick up instruments they otherwise wouldn’t because they decide they’d rather be in a band than compete for the one lead guitar position. It works out because the point of music isn’t just self entertainment, it’s to entertain others.

So, I get that there might be a reason different in, say, Overwatch. But role lock does the Blizzard trick of conveniently, once again, having players blame players for Blizzard’s own character imbalance.

And players are suckers for it!

[RexOverwatch-1555]

the only answer is to let us make our own teams in client

QoL for the LFG

the problem with LFG is that group leaders don’t have the tools they need to run groups with any consistency, NAMELY:--------------- mutually accumulated win/loss/tie record with everyone we meet (to make sure we aren’t getting sabotaged)----------------- individual hero sr (informational purposes only, so we can see how good you can play heroes at a glance)------------------ a player directory (basically reverse LFG, why can people look for groups, but groups can’t look for people)----…

with all this QoL I would never use matchmaker again

[Skund-2376]

Like having synergy, playing together, stay in the rhythm and not do your own thing and ignore the rest of the band?