Pharah needs help, buff her

It absolutely will, adding some means of evasion will help her.

As a 700+ Pharah main, I’m desperate for anything at this point. Anything will help.

Yes give the hero a way to counteract their hard counters and break the game even more than it is already. This is what we call power creep.

TBF, Hammond does have the ability to slam down.

Maybe adding crouch to descent would be good? I think even Mercy valk has something like that.

Evasion will not cause powercreep, power will cause powercreep. If they added damage without checks or by reducing those checks, that would cause powercreep down the line. Simply adding a controlled limited method to evade will not.

Hitscan currently is picked at a rate that far outnumbers Pharah, and given their overtuned state also outperforms and outcounters her at a rate that’s never been seen before in this game. Pharah literally doesn’t stand a chance in the current build of the game against her counters, no other countered hero is as horribly mismatched. A 10 second cooldown vertical descent evade function will not make her OP anywhere.

Giving a hero a way to counter their hard counters putting them above how powerful their hard counters already are is the definition of power creep.

Which is a problem with hitscan. Soldier is currently better than he was back in season 3 when he was considered OP. McCree is getting a machine gun. Widow is a plague that’s ruining the fundamental design of the game.

Again, phara is not the problem with phara anymore than junkrat’s the problem with junkrat. These hero’s can’t be played because other hero’s are over tuned. Buffing them to compensate just makes them over tuned.

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Same as me. ex pharah main and i think the ONLY change she should maybe get is barrage cancel to help higher elos see more success with ult. But that said, shes great how she is atm. Hard counters alot of heroes and also gets countered by good hitscans. Shes more situational nowadays which isnt a bad thing imo (still gets played in OWL from the little gameplay ive seen)

Just cause im ex-prahah doesnt mean I still dont play her. I play her every now & then but I decided to play other roles & learn new heroes cause 1 tricking 1 hero starts to get pretty boring after 1,5+ years.

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I myself stopped maining her to widen my hero pool even tho i had a 62% win rate over a few 100s of games. Something u clearly need to do cus pharah as she is cant ALWAYS be viable.

Because youre playing against hitscans that are better than your pharah is. Valkia can do it because hes a very good pharah. OWL pros do it vs other pros. Maybe your pharah isnt good enough and u should play other heroes on open maps…

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On console she might be good but on PC she’s just hitscan fodder, more so than a year ago because there’s been a lot of buffs to hitscans since then.

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I dunno when you started playing, but there was a point when a good Pharah could outplay her counters, and it was arguably her most balanced point in time.

I don’t know how you think being able to evade rapidly is synonymous with “countering their hard counters”, but it’s clear you’ve never seen a Widow use grapple to escape a D.Va, or a Genji use Dash and Wallclimb to escape a diving Winston, or a Moira or Reaper using their fade ability to out maneuver a CC freeze.

How about looking at heroes who already have this ability and drawing conclusions then instead of suggesting somehow this is a “counter”.

Well given that hitscan is going to receive another buff in the form of a McCree fire rate increase, it appears as though Blizzard is pretty content on hitscan staying the way they are, not reverted. As this is the new norm, it’s logical to think that Pharah should be adjusted accordingly to getting absolutely annihilated by 1/3 of the roster.

Subjective, but fair. It’s funny you should say 1.5 years though, as around that timeframe I found it to be a lot harder to run Pharah in games due to Pharah’s counters being buffed, you know around the start of the hitscan powercreep?

Just an observation is all.

I’m not Valkia, in fact Fareeha isn’t Valkia either. I don’t think there’s a player alive that can even touch Valkia.

Using the very best example out there as a comparison is going to make anything else look mediocre. However, that doesn’t mean for a second that it makes that player bad or even subpar.

I can absolutely hold my own as Pharah main, even as a former one trick, but while it used to be a fun challenge, a good difficult, it’s now an exercise in patience and frustration control.

No other hero is as hard countered to the degree as Pharah is now. The only comparison I can draw is that if Brig against Tracer/Genji and that’s 1:2 ratio, 3% of the roster countering 6% of the roster. Pharah is hard countered 10:1, 33% of the roster countering 3%.

Just something to think about.

Fixed it for you.

Outplaying hitscan isn’t really possible anymore.

It was at one point when she was balanced, but no longer.

You can still outplay & play smarter against good hitscans as prahah.
(I’ve done that more than once even back in season 2 when I started playing ranked)

yeah, when soldier took his nerf and people weren’t good at widow yet, things have changed, hitscan got buffed and people got better at them.

other hero’s being unbalanced doesn’t make it right to unbalance more hero’s. end of.

Interesting concept, but Blizzard doesn’t care. I never hold my breath anymore for heroes I use getting buffed.

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There sure seem to be a lot of those.

Ex pharah mains.

I wonder why…

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Because its boring just playing 1 hero in a game that revolves around switching

You mean like giving junkrat 2 mines so he can use one to jump up to a pharah, shoot a nade point blank then finish with his 2nd mine?

Or like pharah being able to use her mobility to get really close to a widow to gain the advantage?

Or like a tracer being able to juke with both blink or recall mcrees flashbang after which she can proceed to anihilate him?

Or mercy getting to use GA to go and kill say a widow or something or even a healer in the backline?

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What changed then?
In your pharah main period you clearly didn’t feel that way.

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It was my 1st couple of seasons and i liked her so play her alot. Climbed from 2200-3300 mainly playing her then decided to play off tank more due to always getting 3-4dps comps with no mercy. Now i have about 6 or 7 ‘mains’ and have more fun playing different heroes.

I still play her now and again when enemy team runs with a problematic hero that i know she can hard counter. Games starting to revolve around hard counters now unfortunately so switching is more important than ever. Tbf tho i play on console and pharahs issue is exclusively on PC due to most hitscans being alot wonkier on console. She needs more synergy, not buffs imo

I’d be up for more synergy like lucio being able to heal way further up.

I mean if there is any buff you could make to other characters to help pharah out,
that would be the option with no downsides or upsides for pretty much anyone else.

I don’t see moira or baptiste becoming any more useful to her ever,

So what characters do you think should synergize with her more then, barring lucio and how would you go about it?

Would probably have to a new hero… an off tank that is more arial based maybe to take pressure off pharah or another healer that can enable her (Maybe give burst armour similar to brig so she can dive the hitscans) cus imo shes only ever been effective with a mercy (sometimes zen).