All of there CDs are shorter then widows grapple hook so before she gets hers back you should of killed her before hand.
Also anyone who gets support from there team is very hard to kill that isn’t specific to just 1 hero.
Because the top 1% of players can use her to her full ability doesn’t make it poor game design . It just proves she has a high skill rating.
Tracer was getting the same hate that widow was before saying she was OP and all that but only the top players can use her efficiently. But now we hardly see her and people are asking for buffs because she is weak in the meta.
Ill say this again because a hero is good in a certain meta does not make them OP. Widow was completely useless in dive and in fact people kept asking for buffs. But now her counters aren’t in the meta or seen she can shine but i repeat that does not make her OP.
If you don’t play anyones counters they will be OP cus you have noone to contest them but does that mean there OP no just means people don’t wanna counter.
When you negate dive and high mobility heroes, of course snipers are going to have a field day. What did people think would happen? That DPS would sit round a campfire singing Kum Ba Yah?
Huh weird. It’s almost as if teams in OWL use the Most Effective Tactic Available so when people complain about heroes being overpowered they’re being played in that environment. Huh
Because something is effective doesn’t make it OP. If anything in that tactic is hanzo and brig that give place for it. Yet now widow is the one getting all the hate. Di you complain about widow before dive went away. Did you also complain about tracer when she was effective but wont complain about her now cus she is out of meta?
Ignoring off-topic heroes I was fine with Widowmaker until they buffed his hook shot’s CD which was a mistake. They should revert it or at least tune the CD down.
so yes you only hate the DPS heroes when they are spotlight thank you for proving my point
and the buff was 5 months ago and noone really complained. Hmmm weird it seems like people just started to hate her cus she entered the spotlight. And now all the nerf tracer posts have left cus she left the spotlight. Weird it can’t be that these heroes are balanced and people only complain when they take the spotlight. Why do you think they never nerfed tracer?
I dont understand the whole “nerf widow” thing either
People often use that “but shes op at high ranks” argument. I play at those “high ranks” and i never felt like shes op. She sure can be oppressive if played really well but that was always the case, its nothing new that a good widow can dominate a game
Im completly ok with Widow dominating my games too. If a Widow kills you its because she aimed properly - there is barely any luck involved. I could come up with Hanzo now, saying he takes way less skill to play and is just as oppressive
I did. I was also here saying that Tracer/D.va needed some tuning. Your argument might have something to it if you ignore the fact that overtuned dive with no Brig was the latest meta. A lot has changed lately. Widowmaker didn’t need buffs (outside venom mine) but was buffed because she was a victim of the meta. Now she’s just overtuned since that isn’t the case.
You proved my point so stop fighting. You can’t scream a hero is OP just because they are good in the current meta. If they can enter and leave meta’s without buffs/nerfs then they are balanced.
But if you buff someone and they change the full meta then yes they are OP. and once you nerf them they change the meta again. That is what you would call OP
I don’t know why anyone is arguing this anymore, Widow is a bit balanced in my opinion. I would say she is one of the main characters in this game that require somewhat actual skill and is hard to master, any person that plays her randomly (for fun/elimination/death match) will find them self using her abilities “wrong” because they’re trying too hard for headshots and quickly panic when encountered close up by an enemy.
I’ve seen it too many times and I’m relevantly new to this game. Most don’t even use her counters anymore which might make some decide she’s OP, she honestly isn’t.
I can finally play Widow in ranked (I’m low gold) without being called ‘troll’ or ‘thrower’ and now they want to nerf her and make her a troll pick again.
She only became a troll pick when lower-skilled players picked her up and would get 3 eliminations in a single game. She’s a high-skilled hero, and when low-skilled players pick her up, it borderline comes across as throwing because not only is that player no where near the objective, but they’re not landing any of their shots. It essentially makes the game 5v6 when you have a bad Widowmaker (this applies to other heroes too).
But on the flipside, in the hands of a high-skilled player, she is so powerful that many consider her the deciding factor to a game.
She doesn’t need a nerf in my opinion, because she’s only valuable when people can actually play her. You get 0 value out of a bad Widowmaker.
well widow was always (maybe except 3 tanks meta) in the spotlight in diamond and above, if a hero is always very good, we can’t blame the meta for that.