I’m a support main, McCree is… not in my skill pool and probably never will be. Besides, I don’t really have the luxury of swapping to another DPS considering, again, I’m usually doing the healing. I mostly play Zen, but that’s a hard matchup considering I HAVE to headshot her while she merely has to bodyshot my hitbox that’s shaped perfectly to catch her spread. The Moira example was to show that old Brig aside, Tracer can eat any support for lunch making both staying healer and swapping tantamount to throwing.
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Lol, what are you, 12? Have to keep talking to get the last word in?
Both genji and tracer have the first strike and the mobility to move around her.
You’re essentially arguing that it’s impossible to shoot Brigitte in the head. Stop for a minute and think how ridiculous you’re making yourself look.
The OP is gold, of course it is not that hard to hit a gold tracer. Good Tracer players in GM are hard to hit, and it is hard to actually play a good tracer.
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because the question of how difficult you find it is to deal with is a question of personal skill, not emotion, as I implied.
it is. go back and watch overwatch league games where tracers were dunked on by pine and carpe, because of their accuracy with McCree and widowmaker.
yes I just gave you examples.
the reason tracer is good is because of mobility, and the prevelance of dive, and the need to contest highground.
when that need is taken out of the equation, tracer and genji become irrelevant, because why waste time trying to dance around for head shots, when you can just sit back with widow and hanzo and get picks.
this was proven by tracer and genji never being picked to counter double sniper in double sniper meta, due to the lack of high ground to contest in that meta. it was better to run a counter of hanzo and widow, than to try and counter it, because they could easily be deleted.
you upset your own logic got used against you?
don’t be mad at me because you forgot brig can move her shield.
no. im saying any player with even a subpar iq is smart enough to turn their shield to face their attacker.
in your own words:
like seriously, do you play blasting music or something? or are you just that low on the ladder you don’t use the audio ques of the game to hear flankers coming?
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Which is a baseless assumption your part Justin. You do not genuinely know why they struggle against Tracer.
We could both certainly go back and forth showing how the top 0.01 percentile of players “dunk” on each other. You showing me how tracer is getting headshot by a widow while I showing you how a pro tracer runs circles around McCree.
We could do that, but it would not prove anything substantial. Just that a very small percentage of a very very good players can overcome the boundaries and hurdles that most of us cannot.
We are not talking about pro level play. We are talking about play in general.
Of the the top 0.01% of players.
You and I do not live in that range of play.
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If the Tracer in this scenario is shooting with 40% acc and 12% criticals (excellent by GM standards), then it takes her 3.11s to kill McCree.
During this same time, McCree can kill her with only 33% acc as long as only one of his shots is a headshot. With one headshot and one melee, he can kill her with 17% acc. With two consecutive headshots, he can kill her in 1 second. And if he has flashbang, then this scenario doesn’t occur at all.
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you, I do. I play in gm.
Everyone is GM when there is no way to prove otherwise, especially when using a fake account
would you like to add me?
I’m sure you’re in GM buddy 
In saying this, the lower the rank of the Tracer, the lower the rank of the opposing player and the worse their accuracy.
Good for you. Tell me why this changes anything I said?
youre sending sentiments of doubt when I am quite literally offering to add you
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Well, all things being equal, a Tracer at the same range as Pharah will be harder to hit as a result of instant mobility and a smaller hitbox.
gm is the top percentile.
Thing is, tracer is a lot harder to play than some of the characters that are used by lower rank players (soldier reaper junkrat etc.)
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And we’re not the top percentile. Until Blizzard decides whether or not Overwatch is going to be a strictly competitive game we’ve all just got to get along and assume rank means nothing more than experience, so it can’t be used to justify an argument on its own.
Not going to argue against that, though the McCree vs Tracer match up is still heavily favouring Tracer despite Cree being built to counter flankers to some extent.
Assuming the tracer player and mccree player are the same skill level yeah i agree. Mccree vs tracer in gold, tracer has the advantage
In all ranks except silver and bronze (Tracer’s worst), Tracer has the advantage.