Lmao yeah could be, I can fat agree that one
Ok? But sleep dart never left? I fully agree that sleep dart can be an often is used skillfully.
We are talking about the removed CC. Flash was never particularly skillful and neither was Bash or freeze.
No we are simple explaining to you how this type of game work.
And explaining the real skill based countering you can achieve with your skills or knowining the game.
The actual post was about counterplay in general. Just because you don’t see it as skill, doesn’t mean there wasn’t skill though lol. Mei freeze had a pretty short range and couldn’t pierce shields for example. She still had to aim her weapon, just as much as most heroes in the game, which is skill if we’re talking specifics. Not that aim is even really that big of a deal for most heroes in the game.
Flash in comparison is WAY more skillful than most heroes weapons.
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For how much you moan about CC and stuns it sounds more like you just didn’t have the skill to deal with them.
Get good and all…
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No the problem is stuns are no skill and not have place in a skill oriented competitive fps.
In fact no true competitive fps use stuns.
Stuns are no skill solution for people lack of aiming skills, now Blizzard want players to learn a bit to aim.
“now Blizzard want players to learn a bit to aim” How wrong can you be. You are either 100% trolling or clueless. Most of the heroes in the game don’t have harsh aiming requirements. Literally. Go through the list. There’s only a handful that use pinpoint aiming. You speak like you work at blizzard and know exactly what they want, but you don’t. It’s literally a fact aiming and using an ability to land cc is a skill. Period. You said it yourself. “Learn to aim”. The game is not a tradional FPS. It’s a hero shooter. The game is not CS:GO.
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First you will accept there are nearly no chance no skills stuns will come back, better will be.
Learn to dodge? learn not to be so close to those characters with stun abilities? You couldn’t learn those skills? Why didn’t you just practice more?
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Or more simple learn to aim instead of need an ability to block enemies to get easy kill?
Stuns not have place in skill based competitive games.
Players are lucky Blizzard not removed all the stuns.
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There still are a few, mainly Ana if you’re talking about support heroes because she has sleep and and nade. For DPS you have Mei who can wall off. But yeah overall DPS are free
that’s not true, DPS can solo carry now, yay
I’m out. I thought this was going to be a logical convo.
Later. If you can’t see aiming/aiming abilities is a skill, I can’t help you lol
If you were getting stunned so often that it ruined your game to the degree you’ve suggested then you legit just don’t know how to position yourself.
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Just because you point something in a direction and press a button doesn’t mean it takes aim… I cant help you.
cc counters anything harder that isn’t tracer. guess why? tracer can dodge the cc the easiest.
the slower you are the more countered you are.
cc is not the answer. it cannot be the answer bc it
can beat everyone and everything.
which is why hog in theory hard counters any hero besides the tanks.
the problem imho with things like reaper specifically lies more with the dmg players not beeing capable of deleting him before he gets multiple kills. or unwilling to play hog and do it yourself as the tank. his ult can be fully eaten by d.va like imho he has counter play, it just sucks to take away everything he does to beat him. or shot his head off.
similar with genji except they can’t hit him due to his speed (which we dont counter by making genji stand still) bc then everyone will stand still. as its always easier to hit them over genji.
it seems to work for phara but imho she has been marked as a prio target since 2016. while especially dive heroes where overlooked bc you could simply run 3-5 stuns and make them throw the game.
a big counter to dive or more directly flankers has been added with the ping system. ( absolutely nasty ro perma ping the flankers which get deleted before they can leave their hiding spot.
Pointing something in a direction and pressing the button… IS AIM. What even man lmao. I can’t anymore. This post is so toxic. People are mind blowing me. I’m out.
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Seems you can’t understand the concept of skill based competitive fps.
Stuns are not part of this type of game.
There is nothing else to say.
Blizzard was enough “kind” to keep some in game, removing the more no skill stuns.
This is such a wrong take it’s hard to laugh at it.
There is much more counterplay in this game. Not being able to stun an ulting reaper does not mean there is not counterplay, it means ults which take half the game to charge are allowed to be used without the threat of a cooldown ability interrupting it.
Carry ability is much easier in this game. There is much more freedom to get picks, defend against an ult with a support ult, position accordingly etc.
Oh I understand perfectly. You just don’t have the skills to play a game that isn’t like COD. That’s fine, not everybody is good at everything and knowing not to be within 10 feet of a McCree, for instance, can be a pretty difficult concept.
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