the team that let the other team capture first and second point
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Why the heck did you use the word naturally?
What is “natural” about a business model that only functions off of gullible wallstreet investors not getting a return on investment?
League is dead, and embeds are carrying it’s view numbers. Ow1 and 2 was never meant to have esports and it is way below destiny 2 in competitive balance, just like tf2 competitive is dogwater might as well keep it a casual game.
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So it favours the team that goes on to win the game?
Guys, I just discovered that every game ever is unbalanced using 1 simple trick.
Why are these two concepts opposed to each other? Do some people not play Counter Strike casually? Hell, some people play Super Mario competitively.
What makes a game “100% casual” and what makes it “100% competitive”?
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the difference is that clash is the only gamemode i have seen that unintentionally punishes you for winning first point, winning first point on any other gamemode doesnt put you at a disadvantage or one as egregious as clash
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Why the heck did you use the word naturally?
What is “natural” about a business model that only functions off of gullible wallstreet investors not getting a return on investment?
Not all Esport tourneys are made by corperations.
Take smash for instance. For years that community have basically stuck to having local tournaments.
Smaller tourney’s is usually how games get e-sports recognition.
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Sure, but that tactical decision is equally available to either team. Again, if your main complaint is that “Either team has the opportunity to make a counterintuitive, tactical play to give them an easier path to victory and I think it makes the mode less fun” that is absolutely a valid complaint. But the opportunity is equally available to both teams to make that play. It isn’t a balance issue.
thats literally the point, the issue with a mode is a balancing issue
at least with 2CP you arent at a disadvantage if your team captures first point, name any other gamemode that puts you at a disadvantage if you win first point
It’s was never a good idea to make a game for hardcore and casuals, concord being the biggest example and it instantly flopped.
Dude, in PVP tournament grade videogames, there’s basically 2x Mobas and 2x Tactical Shooters
And that’s it in terms of “eSports success”
And even those aren’t doing so well outside of getting bankrolled by Saudi Royalty.
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Push, apparently. Or have we forgotten about that stupid claim from 2 years ago by now?
Do some people not play Counter Strike casually?
Some people do and I understand where your coming from.
The difference is that people who play casually don’t play the normal bomb diffusing game mode and will stick to games like gun game or custom server.
But the key difference is that you can choose what game mode you want to play in their competitive mode. And the Bomb Defusal game mode is seen as the most competitive viable game mode and thus is played the most.
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true, push is a bad gamemode, all the new OW2 gamemodes are terrible, trashpoint, trash and push
The way people use the word casual is driving me nuts.
I was going to say “crazy” but people nowadays also HARDCORE misuse that word.
I guess we are in that era:
The “lets use any hyperbolic expression and make it the norm for no reason at all”.
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Probably all the testers they once had have all been let go, thanks to Microsoft.
And that’s it in terms of “eSports success”
Schizo reply.
Why are you so hell bent on pushing your loathing for E-Sports?
THE POST WASN’T ABOUT ESPORTS!
NO ONE IS SAYING ESPORTS IS VIABLE.
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I fail to see how this has anything to do with the game being casual or competitive, not to mention it’d just break the game.
im talking about the trial period for clash, where you could play it for a time, although i wasnt playing the game when clash was on trial. They probably garnered player feedback instead of paying actual testers to give them more comprehensive feedback than some public rumbling just saying the gamemode was bad
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I fail to see how this has anything to do with the game being casual or competitive, not to mention it’d just break the game.
It doesn’t matter, if they are going to release hero’s in compet as soon they are released then there is no way for players to stop a rampant hero from destroying the competitive integrity of the game mode.
While I agree that hero bans won’t work in this game, releasing hero’s straight into compet is terrieble.
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