I get it… Some people like it. But the VAST majority of the playerbase LOATHE 2CP. I’m sure Blizzard put a lot of time into it, but I honestly believe, OW would have a higher healthier playerbase, if the playerbases’ gametime wasnt forced into 30% or more of their playtime playing this terrible gamemode.
If map vote existed, I can gurantee 2CP would FALL OFF THE MAP. People play this game and other games to have fun.
i don’t even get the hate but at the same time, if you don’t roll the first and second point, it’s just a SLOG
edit: i remember why people hate it. it’s also the easiest mode to draw on.
They also balance maps so that the defense/attack winrate is 50/50 or very close to it. So really, people just need to get over it. 2cp is here to stay.
Eating coffee flavored yogurt is also a pretty balanced experience, doesn’t mean it’s fun. Also… I can’t think of other game modes where there are huge distinct advantges, that’s why both teams (in comp) get an option to attack and defend. And KOTH well… is KOTH.
I have a lot of fun on 2cp, even though most of my teams are lackluster, but I focus on my play and my impact.
I feel like people place too much fun value on winning, and not their skillful plays.
Gods, I cackle like a madwoman when I hack a healthpack right before an enemy gets to it, or if I beat before any of my team dies, or any good thing.
This is true.
This you can’t possibly know for certain, as the forums are a minority of the playerbase to begin with.
Very subjective.
Maybe people don’t like 2CP, but I wouldn’t say the game is healthier without it. Variety of maps and game modes are always good for games. KotH (IMO) is the worst game mode in OW, but I don’t think that it should be removed.
What would be better is if there were more game modes. Not saying a ton more, but maybe a reverse hybrid style could be interesting, along with the upcoming Push mode.
Variety is good. There can be too much, but if OW really only had three game modes, that would get pretty boring pretty quickly. Its also 1/4 of the maps lost (we’d probably get more of the other modes, but still).
Odd, I don’t see other people that myself in nearly every 2CP game saying something in chat about hating 2CP, or for someone to please leave the game. I would LOVE for Blizzard to do an official survey. I guarantee way more than half would say they dont like the game mode and would rather never play it.
2CP can exist. It just has to be done RIGHT.
TF2 had multiple iterations of 2 CP maps and even some weird 3 cp maps. The big factor of what has to be adjusted is how the players are “fed” into the map.
Initially on 2 cp. The spawns could use different experimental placements and see what works best from a dev point. There are so many different locations to adjust for.
I love 2cp, and statistically speak it the modes you are least likely to play in competitive.
Odd, I don’t see people often complaining about the map in the chat either. Amazing isn’t it? How one’s experience isn’t universal? Or that the forums are historically a place of venting, and complaining, or the ever so timeless art of ‘forum pvp’?
You can guarantee all you want, but if at the end of the day, those taking the survey, are largely the same people who inhabit these forums, and I drawn into these echo-chamber threads, what will that really say? If nothing else, it would just confirm why the devs ignore these forums for the most part. Vocal minorities, in regards to community consensus, don’t matter, or represent any meaningful portion of the actual playerbase.
Except it’s not a vocal minority that dislike it. You are in the minority for liking 2CP. And back to my original point, Overwatch would be a better game mode without it, and would probably attract more players. I’m all in favor of having MORE game modes too.
2cp is my favorite mode so that’s BS. How about removing control. If I have to play garbage lijang, busan, oasis amd Nepal. You can deal with 2cp
Yes, 2cp is a mistake, too boring and frıstrating, it is never a good time, it’s such a mood killer when you see it on loading screen.
I agree with you. Remove this cancerous mode
Oooh… Map vote sounds like a good addition to the game.
Literally everytime:
Now entering Paris----
3 players leave
chat: the paris effect
chat: god i hate this map
I mean, this is QP where people want to have fun.
Maybe people don’t complain as much in comp?
The most I have seen leave a game of Paris was 11 people leave before the round started, with another 3 dropping as soon as point A was taken.
I wish Paris was removed from QP until the improvements come through, just like comp. So many people dodge the map that I seem to be getting backfilled into either it or HLC all the time.
I think they should separate the game modes into different maps.
Select Competitive:
Role Queue | Open Queue | Other (for elimination or death match)
Select Game Mode:
Assault | Escort | Hybrid | Control
if other
Select Game Mode:
Elimination (variants) | Lockout (variants) | Deathmatch 4v4
They’re like 5 maps each to cycle through, and they can add a new one for a mode every 6 months or so. At least variations.
heh i cant imagine not having 2 capture points, 1 capture point would REALLY be a quick match
Get back to me with irrefutable proof of that from the entirety of the playerbase, of which, most don’t use these forums. Good luck lmao