Please tell me where you see the full statistics of this game? Because last I check you can’t, since the only sites that were giving info, no longer are viable due to private profiles. And even if they were those stats aren’t the entire community. They were just people who used those sites.
D. Va, from watching games at different skill tiers, is used from bronze to Top500. Usually if a hero is used through each tier then that usually means they’re too good at what they do. I’m not saying she’s OP. Just too good with no alternative option.
Don’t get the professionals wrong, they even themselves make it clear that by no means do they want her to be really nerfed since she’s not overpowered. They just feel like she’s a bit too versatile and that her kit should be changed a bit to fit more of a niche than just be overall good. I don’t personally agree with this as it’s just that matrix is the only reliable answer to huge bursts of damage. If we had something like Mei’s wall on a tank hero I’m sure they’d see plenty of play too just because they can suddenly put up that wall without taking away an ability from a DPS slot
Does that mean we should nerf Lucio then? He has been in pretty much every single Comp since the game came out yet no one seems to raise an eyebrow about him being op right?
How about instead of demanding nerfs we start demanding for more frequent hero releases? If we had more tanks then a lot of the issues we have would go away.
Maybe… It’s still a change in the right direction at least.
Tanks and supports could use some toning down, considering how vital they are for a team comp to function.
You really think pros are going to risk a Mei in their comp just to freeze a Dva? Way too risky.
Junk does not counter Dva. Dva counters Junkrat, defence matrix is one of the best utilities in the game and is literally the most effective thing against a junkrat, she can literally delete all of his kit apart from trap.
Zarya kind of counters her, but Dva has such high burst damage, anyone who can play her decently will take half of her hp in less than 2 seconds if she has no personal
I feel old Dva would be way more balanced personally minus her long DM, it’s her high burst damage that makes her too powerful, take that away and she has a great kit without being more effective than most dps.
D.va deal less than 150 damage with everything and that’s include
Boosting people in the face which deal 10 damage
Melee
Perfect tracking MM (lands all of them without failing)
Perfect head tracking with plasma cannons
Melee
Stay on almost melee on people face
Sometimes use all the DM just to isolate one target
The reason D.va will always be good on high level plays (much more than TOP500/GM) is because she enables/save people for 2 seconds.
Only because of Mercy 2.0 being so absurdly good. The moment she stopped dominating the support, he went right back to being meta.
If we tripled all Hammond’s HP/Damage values and kept it that way for a year would D.Va suddenly be fine? Would Hanzo 2.0 pre-nerfs have been fine if we’d brought 35% Ironclad back alongside him?
Don’t remember their names off the top of my head, but there was one pro team that manged to get quite a nice winstreak vs. GOATS by doing a variation of it where they swapped D.Va for Mei. So there’s that
the pros opinions should rarly mater to players. create a game thats balanced for the slightly above average player, and most of everything else falls in place. look at halo (exept halo 5 that game is always a sweat fest)
a formerly thriving pro scene arose from halo 2 and 3. a game with enough fun fairly simple mechanics for less than average players to have fun, yet enough depth to run circles around 3 people and kill them by yourself given they are unskilled enough and you are skilled enough. halo much easier to balance because everyone plays the same hero. but it is not impossible for overwatch. i think less time should be spent on new heroes and more on fixing the heroes we have. the pros will always adapt. even if they hate it. so who cares about their opinions other than them? they will make their money wether they hate it or not. and get this: the guy trying to make professional kevel money on overwatch are trying to dictate overwatch? lol get out of here you low key cheater.
I don’t think she’s OP at all. She’s easy to focus down even with one good dps hero unless she’s all up on your face. If you see her fighting someone just focus her and she will be out of her mech in no time.
She’s picked all the time because she fits in every single situation/meta. She has the perfect utility to help out a team.
Dva is not op. Her win rate is average. You don’t have to pick her if the enemy has one or throw the game, and you won’t auto win if you have one and the enemy does not have one.
She is picked a lot in pro because of utility. Just like rein. But you need pro level play to get that utility.
“If dva managed to fly up to you, drill you with her micro missles while eating your return fire with matrix, before finishing you off with her shotguns- you deserve to die”.
Question; do you remember how garbage halo 2 and 3 were to play competitively until the pros and mlg changed the settings and weapon spawns on map.
There seems to be a lot of disdain towards “pro” players. We should refer to them as the most “knowledgeable” players- because they are.
Forum is so hypocritical, if rich c made a big post on rein balance changes he’d be praised and supported simply cos more users here would “know” him. They can accept his opinions on rein because they know him and he is knowledgeable. The onl y thibg missing from a pros opinion if you’re casual is you feel like you don’t know them and it migjt bug you because you don’t like their agenda.
I play Zarya and demech Dvas all day. Zarya is a great dva counter lol. Bubble the person she dives and use the charge to demech her. Now you have your very own baby dva.
This thread is really bizzare. Why do people think that every hero should counter every hero? It’s almost like no one realizes it’s a team game… that also encourages swapping heroes to counter the other team.
If dva is eating your nades, high noons and barrages… swap. Or ask your team to help you demech her first.
Or if dva is diving you and not being punished, rethink your positioning?