Not that I think Overwatch is some great compeitive game, but I’m pretty sure they’re mostly following the money.
It’s basically about the money. From what I’ve heard, the pros make more money from streaming than they do competing. Unfortunately, when the product that you’re streaming is starting to get stale, i.e., a lack of meaningful content updates and questionable changes, the product in and of itself becomes less popular to watch. The streamers see this, their revenue starts taking a hit…well, time to move the herd to greener pastures until this one grows back.
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Which would be fine if Blizzard didn’t go all-in with OWL. They want Overwatch to be a competitive game, but the cast and balance looks like Marvel vs Capcom 2.
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It always was. In season 1 it was best played like any fun, regular game.
As you say, marketing called one of it’s game modes ‘Competitive’ and pretended it was some special way of playing.
It isn’t and it never was. A way to suck people into playing it. All in all, it still is a fun game, though honestly a lot less fun since Blizzard took things away from players rather than fixing their characters.
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Overwatch is PVP. Being competitive is ingrained in the game’s DNA.
PVP games have to be competitive or it just wouldn’t work. The game would lose its soul without the competitiveness.
You know why some “casuals” want easy heroes? Because of competitive drive. Because they don’t want to lose. Because they want to win. Difference is the method is unhealthy compared to just getting better themselves.
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If it’s casual nature were to be improved upon, I think it will somehow also improve it’s competitiveness.
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thats tf2.
thats also the original design of the game with customizable abilities.
and thats gonna be ow2 pve mode.
the game is fun if you’re good at it, and everyone can choose how to play. You can play casually and enjoy your favorite hero at your appropriate rank.
Pretty much your posts reeks of not wanting to get good at the game but expecting to beat skilled players with some low skill ceiling hero (eg Torbjorn).
Sure, as per definition any PvP game is inherently competetive. But Im more talking about the focus on that competetiveness. Take Battlefield 3 for example. Its played PvP, but no one in the right mind would call it a competetive game. Its focus is on casual fun. The kind you dont need to put in hundreds of hour for to get it. Then theres a game like CS:GO which oozes with competetiveness. I think Overwatch should side more towards games like Battlefield, TF2 or Battlefront in regards to fun gameplay, rather than high skill stuff like CS:GO or Siege. Because it just doesnt fit Overwatch at all. Overwatch feels about as much like an e-sport as Subway Surfers.
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And Blizz should have learned from HotS. You make solid games, sure, but that doesn’t automatically mean that you can walk right into a very niche genre and think you’ll own it from name alone, especially when the people you have tasked to own said genre have no experience at all with that genre.
I love games like CS or Dota. But because I play them so much, the inadequacy of Overwatch being an e-sport becomes even more apparent. I dont mind the idea of better players doing better than worse players. But Overwatch isnt this kind of high skill game. It just isnt. So much of it is watered down and simplified to the point where theres hardly anything left to learn in Overwatch.
I casually play solo and with friends and have a great time. I played just Mystery Heroes for almost 2 years but since RQ came to QP I have returned to that when I solo play and enjoy it more now.
It’s sad though to see toxic people in Mystery Heroes. People crying about balance and poor RNG along with “you guys suck” comments. Had someone last night say some exploits in voice after round 1 ended then rage quit. I’m a bit more strict for reporting abusive chat in MH than I would be in competitive mode. It’s a super casual chill mode, I don’t see your snardy remarks and “ez” comments.
Jeff had some hesitation with the competitive play implantation, and when we look at this game closely it appear clear that entertainment is way over technicalities.
It’s to each of us to do what we want about it 
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Overwatch is a competitive hero shooter. To play this game competitively you have to be able to switch heroes on the fly and play the hero necessary to win. But when most overwatch players hear the words competitive and shooter they immediately think that playing aim characters should be an auto win. That’s not how hero shooters work and never has been.
I could not agree more. Though I love OWL, and regularly watch it, the intense marketing of it as competitive as a result has really hurt the game. For me at least, the appeal of overwatch is how you really get to step into the shoes of these heroes, and the abilities and animations perfectly reflect who they are. In a competetive game, the focus is often on making someone that has a perfect difficulty curve, but that simply isn’t the presonality of a lot of these heroes. The game really has opened up for me after I stopped treating it like something it wasnt.
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I largely refuse to play competitive. I climbed to gold, just to prove myself that I too can be average, then haven’t played it since. I agree that the game is best when just playing to have fun.
i think it still has more potential in the competitive field and personally i think its not a highly competitive shooter, its a highly competitive First Person MOBA
idk if hero bans or map bans or role lock is best for pro level, but making pro level different from ranked queue isnt gonna work out well probly
just is bummer that people aren’t polite or their better natures online a lot of the time (going 3rd 4th 5th dps when the situation doesnt warrant it)
Except there is a signicant part of the community that thinks competitive integrity is fun.
And fun is too subjective to design around.
I’m sure a Widow is having fun clicking heads, or Brigitte holding M1. And i’m sure getting clicked on or bashed isn’t fun.
Imagine thinking OW isn’t a casual game.
Has a comp mode
Has an esports scene
Has professional players
Has professional streamers
Whatever you think of it, it’s a competitive game for most people (since the most played mode by far is comp). But sure, use your own biases to say “it’s not a competitive game, MOIRA exists!”