Opinions On: Tracer / Soldier

I probably missed a lot of quotes, but i’ll just start complaining now I guess. The amount of one hit kills, auto aim, an spam in this game is baffling. A character with 150 health heavily relies on her kit to just survive. ANY damage even if it seems minor can bring tracer to half, which even a baby dva could get a headshot an kill (80 damage).
instant dead
hanzo bodyshot/headshot, his spam drops her to half
roadhog any range instant dead even without hook both primary an secondary works
solder helix an a few shots
brig, this is questionable a good one will predict tracer an combo kill.
mcree same as brig
genji two right clicks dead any range

I’m pretty tired and rather sleep that keep this going since I have to work in a few hours. Was going to look up actual numbers, just don’t got the time.

Just look at the paper character an figure out how much damage it takes for every character to kill her. It’s really not much, instant killing a player drops the team to a 5v6 easily favoring the team.

This is coming from a silver/gold player that plays alot of tracer in quickplay. I wouldn’t take her to comp. but that’s my opinion.

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Yes, her having the lowest health pool in the game is a weakness the developers intentionally gave her.
She has some of the best mobility in the game, has a ridiculously small hitbox, and still has insane damage potential, if you’re at all doubtful look at Tracer mains, see how they work around the current meta, what flank routes do they take, who do they target in the middle of a fight.
She’s not weak, she just finally has heroes that can actually hard counter her, where she was free to do as she pleases previously.

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I’ve played against high tier plays in qp. When a Hanzo does a 180 snapping to you like a robot every time. You start questioning the balance of why does it only take a body shot to kill her

Keep in mind that mechanical skill is a factor. If you played against a high ranked Hanzo like you claim, that’s him vs. you, a silver/gold player. No hate, just stating facts.

In my opinion Tracer didn’t need her ultimate Nerf. This was before Brigg was introduced into the game. After Brigg was introduced into the game , Tracer isn’t even picked that much anymore.

Soldier needs a few tweaks.

  • larger clip size 30-35 from 25
  • reload while sprinting
  • no reload during his ultimate. His ultimate is 6 seconds and he spends 2 seconds of that reloading.

I don’t think they’ll do this one but I’ll just throw it in there as a long shot

  • give him back his 20 damage per bullet.
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I think they’re pretty balanced presently wether they’re meta or not.

Maybe they could lessen the falloff on tracer’s ultimate though.

If your argument is Tracer isn’t as OP as Hanzo. I don’t think anyone in the world would have an issue with that.

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give tracer 200hp so she can do better against all the burst and spam. too easy to get chipped down from random spam. currently sombra is better for harassing the backline, and no one seems to mind she is a 200hp hero with a recall ability via translocate.

yeah i play against high ranks every time i team with my bro. He’s plat, so I get a better chance of get stomped on. Should of seen my try playing against masters & then get talked down to, was super fun.

Anyway, if you think hanzo 1 shotting bodies is balanced. I dont know what to say, doesnt have anything to do with mechanical aim. you are straight up at a disadvange. all he has to do is spit an your dead

she really didnt, should watch the bastion take half a clip an ult and still walk away.

all it takes is one hit, you accidentally get hit by junk left click that’s 120 damage, you are running around with 30 health now.

I had a mercy rez me during last fight in one of my last games, sym slapped three turrets next to me before I respawned. I dont think its possible to move faster than you die for that.

You’re making it sound way easier to play Hanzo than it actually is. He’s a difficult character to play, it’s hard to hit headshots, yes it’s hard to hit headshots on a Tracer. If he’s consistently dinking you, that his skill doing the work, on a hero that rewards skill. In that time that Hanzo charges his bow to attack you, you as the Tracer can one clip him. Both of you have the potential for getting deleted and for deleting one another.

The problem with Soldier 76 is he got hurt really bad by power and mobility creep.
The only solution would be to rework him, but I don’t really think we should.

In the time it took you to make that shot how fast do you think it would take tracer to one clip you? how fast is instant dead?

This is what I really want to know, ill have to see if i can drag my bro into practice an do testing

I have 220 hours on her and I’m silver atm but I have a 65% winrate with her and over 100 games this season. Shes fine people just play her bad

Then you should know the amount of 1 hit kills and 2 hits it takes to drop tracer. How much effort it takes to down someone compared to how much effort it takes to down a tracer.

Tracer is fine. She runs interference well and can be a pain in the butt any team not running Brigitte. She shares space with Genji, Sombra, and Doomfist in that role. If I had to rank her, I’d put her better than Genji and Sombra, but worse than Doomfist. Genji might get a leg up with an Ana for nanoblade, but I’m in the camp that thinks Nano-Rein is a more efficient use (fewer ults wasted).

Soldier is… not doing well. Burst meta does not favor him at all, and I don’t see any indication that this is going to change any time soon. Widow, Hanzo, and McCree share this space, and he’s kind of at the bottom. No one really cares about Soldier’s utility (healing is not impactful, his run helps with positioning, but Hanzo and Widow are better at that).

Until we get rid of 1-hit kills, Soldier isn’t really coming back anytime soon.

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Yea, I can see that.

Yeah. Alot. But that’s because

A good tracer can take an entire teams focus up

That would mean you never played higher ranking players, there is no dance for that. You come around a corner an you are dead.

ug, i was going to edit this but its time for work. peace