I said in the original thread in defence of the survey that response bias doesn’t invalidate the results, just limits the conclusions we can make, but this is a type of conclusion we absolutely can’t make due to the said bias.
90% of the respondents not very representing of the entire playerbase but who are likely invested in Mercy think this. That would be about right. It even says in the thread that many respondents are support/Mercy mains.
No I hadn’t, but I just looked at it.
As a data analist, I can already say that a majority of the input given is invalid.
Just look at the first two questions:
People are answering question 1 with “no”. And then they answer question 2 and start with I do, explaining why they do like and enjoy playing Mercy .
Also a survey isn’t something that takes multiple rows in excel, it’s just a simple question with multiplechoice answers.
Good effort by the person who tried it, but it doesn’t show anything and the formatting of the “survey” is wrong.
2,000 people is roughly the amount taken on exit polls to indicate the outcome of an election for countries with up to 60,000,000 and they are still extremely reliable.
The second point stands, the first point makes no sense if you actually understand statistics.
We have a winner.
This survey is about as accurate as the polls where Trump pretends to have 50% approval rating.
plugging my thread as a response to this thread to end this pointless excuse of a thread
Yup, think this youtube video is more representive and solid argument to why mercy had to be nerfed.
2k people randomly selected from the populous is MUCH more representative than 2k people gathered from the community that comes together to complain. It’s like grabbing 2k people out of a 60million from ONE city. They’re going to be biased.
Correction: 90% of the people “on this forum who cared enought to click and vote for this”.
90% of players >>>>>>>>>>> 90% of forum user >>>>>>>>> 90% who saw the link >>>>>>>>>>> 90% who use the link.
In the end you can conclude that 90% of people who use the link (<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<90% player based) are mercy mains.
woop woop another Mercy post
Dude above me also has a point. 90% of mercy players- on the forums that bothered to even vote want Mercy changed
Is it a forum poll?
Because seriously 10% of 10% of players is like 1% of the forum users lmao
Because the rough amount of players who use the forum on any forum in every game is usually around the 10% mark a forum poll is no where near an indication of what people want and what they dont.
The problem isn’t the number of respondents in itself though, as it seemingly was suggested. 2k would be a fair enough sample size were it fully unbiased. (Note: it’s not unbiased in this case.)
Do you have evidence that the forum’s population is not a valid representation?
Just that every game forum ever has had forum involvement of less than a few % usually. Of that small representation overwatch has had mostly people who complain. Considering that it’s a tiny, select and vocal group, I’d say your average overwatch player is NOT well represented by those who seek out, post and in this case care about mercy enough to respond to the survey.
Didn’t cross your mind that a huge majority of Mercy mains voted ?
Shrug I doubt the survey says much, I didn’t read everything but I doubt any statistical programs like SPSS was used for example. All it says is that there are quite a number of people unhappy with her currently. We already knew this.
I find if you want truthful answers it’s usually best to hide the “actual” questions in a questionnaire with several other questions to lessen the risk of the survey itself only attracting a particular set of participants.
Besides, people who are disgruntled are FAR more likely to actively voice their concern, so results will be skewed even further.
This is called the vocal minority and that’s basically what the entire forum is, not even people commenting on Mercy. More often than not, people come onto the forums to complain, so you don’t get the perspective of those who enjoy with the game.
mmmm that aint it chief.
the survey interviewed 1600 players
overwatch has about 30 million players that’s not even 1% of the overwatch population.
you cant even say what 1% of players want from this survey, not to mention the data on it isn’t reliable
this.
guess how much of the survey was support mains? over 60%.
Since a huge part of the forum contain is basically guys whining about Mercy, nothing interesting here.
Make a survey taking a significant part of Overwatch players directly in game, people will finally understand that noone give a damn about Mercy.
Unfortunatly, this survey barely gives more than an insight on the topic.
Most people who answered are mercy main.
The survey gave us an insight, but it cannot be held as the sacred texts