Only 50 DAYS until OW2!

This might sound silly for some , the ping system :slight_smile:

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The only monetization is for cosmetics and the eventual PvE though? Literally nothing about the usual Overwatch gameplay is being affected by monetization, so this seems like pointless whining.

And those things still matter to people, big shocker. It’s not whining. It’s actually offensive. I only enjoy getting skins, that is my reason to play. This game isn’t good enough on its own otherwise. I also like the characters a lot and wanted the PvE to be you know a full game and not cut up and spread out just for them to make money. God dismissive people here are unbelievable. Just cause you don’t care doesn’t mean it does not matter to some people.

In fact, I’d argue it matters to the majority, you know all the people who quit to spend money on all the other F2P scam games that they’re invested in now since OW was abandoned for 3 years just to change the monetization to be unfriendly.

Free-to-access does not 100% equal free to play.

I mean as long as there isnt any pay to win then yes, its free to play sorry friend.

Free to play models are the standard now in PC gaming so unfortunately you are either going to have to adapt or go do something else if its truly that offensive to you.

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But it’s literally free to play. You can play the new, updated version of the game you’ve been playing for 6 years for free. It’s a whole PvP game that’s completely free to play, no financial restrictions on gameplay or progression. What part of that don’t you understand? The PvE is literally an extra that wasn’t there before. So it’s going to cost extra. I’ve seen more than enough actual “F2P” scams in games, but this isn’t one of them. You expected them to add a whole PvE game to this and not charge for it? Are you that entitled? Or are you being deliberately obtuse so you can keep feeling like the victim?

Dismissive and reductive. F2P games are scams and have no creativity or innovation about them. Blizzard could be better and not follow the standards or they can continue to con you and a bunch of other people out of your money. I should always be able to get skins I want in any game I paid for whether it goes F2P or not is irrelevant.

It is only free to access and nothing more. If you don’t care then good for you, the majority who doesn’t care about coming back to OW would probably have a word with you if the game hadn’t been abandoned in favor of becoming garbage.

Stop being dismissive and reductive, it’s literally gross at this point.

Subhuman replies don’t matter to me. I knew the PvE was going to cost money. I didn’t expect them to become ridiculous and offensive about it though. It should be a full game? It’s like you shills want to be milked from every last dime. I mean you’ll only contribute to the death of this game, not that it already isn’t dead. All F2P games are scams, OW included when it changes. This will never not be a fact. Sorry.

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:roll_eyes: It’s still not whining. But people like you are completely delusional. You contribute to the death of OW. Congratulations.

It already is a full game. What the h*** do you think Overwatch 2 is? It’s a new version of a whole game. Before the PvE even comes out that’s already going to be the case. “All F2P games are scams.” Imagine having the arrogance to claim OUR arguments are “reductive,” and then unironically saying that. Also disagreement =/= dismissive. Stop misrepresenting our arguments just because it’s easier than coming up with actual counterarguments. And now you’ve even resorted to childish, petty insults like “subhuman.”

“I should be able to get any skin I want in a game I paid for.” This sentence right here. This tells us everything we need to know about your temperament.

Because I should be able to? I should not have to fork over money just so people like you and the OP can selfishly enjoy a game you don’t plan to pay for at all.

When you stop being dismissive I’ll stop calling you reductive or subhuman. Better yet just stop telling me what I can or cannot feel. The F2P garbage is just that garbage, it is not welcome in any form. I don’t give a :poop: if it is the standard, you fools know it doesn’t have to be that way and yet you blindly defend it? I can’t even make that up really. I mean if you want OW to remain irrelevant and dead then by all means lmao.

Also, OW2 is still not a new game, it is absolutely a scam. If they were selling OW2 for $60 it could be called a new game. Anyways :yawning_face:

This poor Emberwing man

The worst part is that if he were in charge, he would also make the game f2p lol

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Nobody’s “blindly defending it.” We’re simply capable of seeing the difference between an actual scam, and a game that has literally no financial restrictions on gameplay or progression. I’m not gonna waste my time being mad at this when there are actual scams I can call out. There’s a difference. But you’re too busy being immediately emotional about everything here to take a second to think critically and actually see the difference. This is your problem. Nobody ever told you WHAT to feel. We simply gave counterarguments and I wanted you to think logically for a second. But there’s none of that with you. No reason, no logic, just pure, childish emotion. No well formulated arguments, just insults, oversimplifications, and mindless repetition. Any further debate with you is an obvious waste of time.

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Forty-nine days and counting… we need a new number thread each day… I cannot wait to play JTQ again, so fun even is she is a mediocre tank in the long run…

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You provided no valid arguments or reasonable points at all. Calling me a child or pointing out anything to do with my temperament isn’t an argument either. OW2 going F2P is a scam. Losing access to getting cosmetics is a scam. There is nothing to be excited about here.

No, I wouldn’t I don’t believe in scams. You’re both wrong either way. Enjoy killing the game for everyone else!

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You haven’t tried it yet?!

The first one is a hidden gem, or a not hidden gem? Not too sure how aware people are about it…

Good story, good world building, good atmosphere, good use of terror.

Hope you’d give it a go even now instead of waiting 50 days…

Good luck with that. People don’t even want to watch the game right now. What makes you think there is some massive number of people dying to get in to play it?

How is conforming to a standard, like it or not, where the consumer has shown clear preference for a zero-barrier-to-entry model with back-end monetization a “scam”?

No, you are just finally be asked to pay again for them if you want the better ones. You got a lot more than frankly your money warranted to start, a free upgrade of the game with all those cosmetics grandfathered in by the way, and continuing new free cosmetics with a free pass. Blizz is under_zero_ obligation to continue giving you things you don’t pay for. You got your money’s worth for six years for $40, and probably lets be honest, paid more over time in loot boxes, I seriously doubt you only just bought the game and never paid a dime more.

Now, if you want to, and you see the higher tier cosmetics as worth it you can buy a pass to get them, not interested, pass on the pass (pun intended). It’s actually a very reasonable and fair model to work from as you only really pay for content you want. I think the issue underlying here is you are a collector likely, and know you can’t afford it all. I hate to say this, but you and I are simply not owed anything for a ridiculously low cost for endless content.

Losing your mind and screaming “scam scam” because of an optional purchase of cosmetics says to me the actual game means little to you, it’s about collecting.

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They will be worth as much as grinding for border levels in OW1, which isn’t much since no one plays the game for just the lootboxes.

I’m most looking forward to the new support hero that seems to possibly have high mobility because speed is fun.