One tricks who know their character > Flex players who don't know their characters

One mistouch and the post gets wiped and can’t undo on the phone. Cool forum tool there.

Ok, let’s assume you did say that.

Does your answer change if they aren’t bring effective?

True, less times than the opposite is true. As above, if the one trick is being shut down then shouldn’t they change? Or do you believe the rest of the team needs to change? Do you see a double standard here?

Then why say top 500? That distinction is just to imply they are a better player than you. No other import can be taken from saying top 500.

If what you are saying is true, replace “top 500” with “bronze” and see if it reads the same.

You seem to use a word you are not quite familiar with. A strawman is more like:

“My one trick is better than everyone and is never countered and if countered it means you’re not willing to swap to counter the counter because I should never need to swap, if we lose it is your fault for not swapping.”

Dude - what I said was an example. Not specifically for YOUR team, but a team that has a top 500 junkrat on the team.

If you log in the Que - and get someone as good as pvptwitch on your team, who’s an excellent junkrat - why in the hell would you tell him to switch because the enemy team switched to a pharah mid round?

They switched because they want to counter the junkrat.
You don’t switch off of McCree to Genji because you want to counter the opposing team’s Widow who has hit 1 out of 40 shots. That widow is garbage. You are doing your team more harm than good by switching to a hero to counter someone who isn’t providing any value…

The point is, if the opposing team switches to Pharah, because they are sick of the Junkrat on your team destroying them, then why are you asking an effective 1 trick junkrat to switch. There are 5 other entities on your team.

Is the Tracer on your team willing to go Widow if she is capable? Is your off tank willing to go D’va if that’s what it is called for? Do you think getting off Lucio and swapping to Zen would help minimize the Pharah? YOU are the type to whine and complain that your junkrat won’t switch - which only ruins team moral and gets the ball rolling downhill from there. And if your junkrat DOES switch to McCree…he now provides little to no effectiveness at all against a Pharah because he >>IS NOT GOOD AT THE HERO.

I want shadowburn on Genji.
I want Fitzyhere on Sombra.
I want ML7 on Ana.

You play to your strengths as a team, and you work to counter what the opposing team is trying to counter. It’s a simple concept that flew over your head like a jumbo jet.

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Even worse then. Because now it is literally a perfect world strawman “if my team is perfect why should I switch” argument.

Sorry they are a one trick and won’t swap.

One trick, won’t swap.

One trick, won’t swap.

In my experience it is actually the one trick. I don’t say anything on comms, being mute and all.

Then the team deserves to lose. He deserves to lose rank.

When you can’t make an actual counter argument so you create a hypothetical situation that in reality would be a very, very low chance of happening in game, especially at higher ranks.

Ahh
How cute, of course you think it’s more often the 1 trick because you agree with the person that is yelling at the 1 trick so of course you don’t remeber that but you do remember the 1 trick trying to defend themselves from such hate.

My mom has made chicken, every night for the past 5 years…I’m sure the chicken is much better now…but all I taste is cardboard and dread.

Just mute everyone and make callouts EZ

That’s a fallacy

A one trick exposes themselves to every possible outcome, a Flex player who doesn’t master that one character has never experienced every possible outcome because they are always changing the situation based on mechanical design, rather than forcing a static mechanic to work in any situation.

TL:DR Flex players execute mechanical counters based on Game Design, a One Trick executes a static mechanic to work in every situation, regardless of which mechanical counter is being used.

I don’t agree, and here’s why. If you counter-pick a hero you don’t need to be as skilled to still win. So properly counter picking gives you an advantage.

Now obviously if you’re so terrible that you still lose despite the counter pick advantage then yeah I agree. But if you’re that bad at the hero, you don’t flex onto it.

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Sounds too much like personal history there.

Like everytime your name comes up, people on your side groan because you’ve been toxic to them for asking you to swap.

One tricks are remembered. If you want no toxicity then you need to never be toxic. Ever. Because you have shown you are unwilling to grow as a team player, they don’t want you on their team.

Firstly if it is a top 500 junkrat on your team, then you are most likely to have top 500’s and GMs on the enemy team as well. You are saying that everyone else needs to flex to support a countered hero, when it’s likely that they are all providing value as well since a one trick doesn’t exist in a vacuum and doesn’t carry top 500 games by themselves.

There are countless top 500 vs 6 bronze players where the top 500 may do tons of work but still loses the match. That is because team > one player.

If you are a one trick you are not solo carrying games at the rank you belong at so get that noise out of your head. You may be great at your one hero, but since one hero can’t take a point or move a payload without support to heal or speed, tanks to make space and additional damage to split the attention of the enemy it is selfish and often immature to insist that 5 others flex to support your playstyle (while you simultaneously flame the flex people that enable your playstyle in the OW forums).

No
People who disagree with x person are remembered by x person.
You remember 1 tricks who you side against even if they weren’t toxic

Except, I and the vast majority of most other 1 tricks I’ve run into are actually pretty chill and if absolutely required are fine not playing our hero, though we do warn our team it’s a bad idea and that we’ll probably lose

Thank you for telling me what I do. No wonder you receive a lot of toxicity.

Haha
Actually, I don’t thank you very much. Because I don’t blame people who i disagree with. I actually look at myself and what I can improve on.
But you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about nor have you made an actual agrument worth arguing against, so Peace! Muting this thread.

Imagine only being capable of playing a single hero in a game where most heroes only have 4 buttons to press and you hold left click to spam aim. How did those people manage to graduate highschool?

Ah, so that’s how he doesn’t see the toxicity he generates. Cool.

The team deserves to lose because the one trick is “being a good ole’ boy” and switching off of his most effective hero. Lol. You are clueless.

Opposing team goes Genji to deal with Kephri…??? I want Kephri to stay on Widow…the team can work as a team to deal with the Genji.

But not you. “Kephri…GET OFF WIDOW, they swapped to Genji. Like I know you are destroying everthing which is what caused them to switch their dps to Genji to deal with you, but you have to switch now.”

-Kephri goes Zarya. You lose.

You - “Gg guys. We tried. At least he switched though. Good ole teammate”
You
are
clueless.

There is more to every single hero in this game than just “4 Buttons”. You are thinking on the shallow end of the pool.

There are guys that make the character they play look like art when you watch them.

Jardio on Mei.
Old Wrax on Hanzo.
Valkia on Pharah.

If it was just “4 button heroes”…than everyone would be Valkia, Jardio, and Samito…

but every one ISN’T though. It’s because it’s more than just 4 buttons.

Which he is being shut down on. You mention names like it’s relevant. All that’s relevant is if your team is losing, and the one trick is a clear issue, and they swap but you still lose then the other team is better. Probably because they aren’t one tricks or something.

Keep repeating it. I almost believed you the second time.

and the most dangerous man is one who practiced 5 kicks 2000 times

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100% this. While the one trick is more annoying to play around, speaking as a former flex player, people who play a few heroes climb faster