They literally walked back Hanzo breakpoints. They know 1 shotting is required to keep these heroes viable. You’re just simply wrong. I’d be willing to allow 300 HP heroes to survive with a small amount of HP, but anything 275 and lower should always die to Widow crits.
After all of it how good is Hanzo again? As I said, die on this hill if you want.
Nah.
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I’m actually not too sure how well Hanzo is doing currently but it’s most certainly better than before.
You can die on your hill too. They won’t remove it. They have said they would prefer to change maps before ruining her identity anyway.
Well they just did try to change the maps to fix her. They’ve reworked Circuit, Havana and Junkertown but she’s still must pick.
You just said what the next step is 
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Tweak the maps more?
They’re not going to carry on investing huge resources into fixing an unpopular hero when they could just change a number and be done.
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Yeah well anyway. I don’t see her getting that removed. You can bookmark this and I’ll get to hear you say “told ya so” but I doubt that day will come really.
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Just kind of losing interest in the chat. I don’t have data or anything to discuss map design and costs and neither do you. Why would I believe your comments on it, and why would you consider mine. Pointless.
You don’t have to reach her in one singular movement my guy, Tracer certainly doesn’t. And if she grapples away, congrats, you’ve shooed her away from the spot where she can easily see people and will be easier to put down for the next twelve seconds.
Countering Widow isn’t killing her outright, same as every other character. Countering is reducing their impact and preferably killing them, but as long as they can’t do what they want to do then you are countering them.
Yeah, I would know, I’ve played the game
Do you think I just don’t play the game or something? That I’m not talking from years of experience? Honestly
Ah, there it is lmao. “I’m losing interest” what a joke.
People undervalue good positioning on a sniper like crazy. Displacing a Widow from a good spot is really valuable and extremely annoying for the Widow player.
I’ve been going on and on with people that simply hate Widow and just want her to be F tier for the last couple hours. Of course I’m getting bored. I hope each of your most favorite heroes get the craziest off the wall random hard nerfs next if Widow ever loses her identity.
So a counter has to invest several cooldown rotations, take all that time, and all that risk to simply approach a Widow? None of Widow’s counters can contest her without first getting close, except Widow.
Yeah, I’m gonna follow a Widow into her Juno and Brig when she grapples out.
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We want her to be fair to fight, and if her being F-Tier is a natural byproduct of that then so be it. A lot of other less problematic heroes have lost their identities and viability for a lot less than ruining the game for its entire lifespan, as stated previously.
Why should this be the case? Just because Overwatch has too many non-fps players, you can’t handle it?
Sniper is not a niche class in an fps…
If both supports are hard pocketing the Widow, why isn’t anyone shooting at the tank or other DPS? Pressure the tank and the supports will split up.
Anyway. I’m excited to see 6v6. If Widow still feels broken to people, I’ll eat my shoe.
Better get chewing then.
I love getting two tapped by a Junkrat flying through the air like a Pharah. Super fun to fight a Junkrat OTP /s