Not your grandmom, not the guy next door nor that fortnite kid
Can you not do these changes to cree and mei
They are literally in their most balanced states ever.
Just leave them alone and focus on actual issues.
Of all the things you could have tinkered with you chose two of the most balanced dps.
Honestly after a few seasons of seeing a certain support flying every where out of reach i miss CC x)
Im a main tank, i would be impacted a lot by cc…but at this point idc.
I was able to endure it in ow1.
cree hasn’t been balanced since OW2 launched with that homing rocket on cooldown so it doesn’t really matter what they do with him at this point
Mercy after recent nerfs is easily shootable
I think my biggest problem with them adding CC back in to characters is the fact that they at the start dissed CC and wanted to remove it and limit to Tanks. But now they have back stepped and are adding it back to characters the suffered from the changes at the beginning of OW
Except did they remove CC in the first place? They took it away from some (Mei & Mcree) but then gave a whole bunch to the tanks so less removed and more moved. Gutting Mei into pointlessness and giving Mcree a homing tracer bomb.
The balance of the universe is restored.
Cc is dumb as it will always affect slow moving heroes than fast ones
PLENTY of people asked for CC back.
Which is why they are making selective CC, where it silences mobility powers.
Try throwing it on Mei / Ana and see how much it effects them.
Likely as not, only the slow will take effect, which they are resistant to, so it won’t effect him as much as others.
Which is better than an actual stun right?
Only being effected by a slow which he is resistant to, is pretty good for him.
Blizzard has to put in flanker counters, you know, ones which work. So, current nade isn’t going to cut it, which is why there is a new one.
And landing it on Tracer will wreck her, compared to a slow on Rein.
She still can fly away easily.
Its just not as dumb as it used to be thats all.
But still dumb.
Try throwing it on rein
Sounds like a win for Reins team as he’s only gonna be mildly inconvenienced. When I get ravenous vortexed (or whatever it’s called) I’m not devasted flipping my table.
Now if you stuck it to Ball or Doom though…
let’s just make it so she can only zip and not float. problem solved.
gotta be honest, nothing bothers me more than seeing a 100 sens mercy “playing” the game and the enemy wins because they retain 6 players from ow1
i bet they “ranked up” that way too, and many such cases where it’s only support and not dps/tank matching.
like i legit hate seeing them sweat for a low skill ceiling character that you can play while fully (not partially) inebriated
I asked for a few DPS interrupts. Once I think. I don’t necessarily need the stun timer. or movement change. But Cass throwing out a “flash bang” that just stops a death blossom in it’s tracks wouldn’t be bad, I mean… even an actual smoke bomb might’ve been good. disrupting visuals for a short duration.
I’m not upset at this though, unless everybody gets a stupid CC again and it becomes Tank pinball again.
“No one asked for cc back”.
Search for “bring back cc” on this forum :
before you know it you’re just dead, its frustrating.
i dont care what forum goers think, im talking to blizzard.
its really aggravating to fight genji, the fight is over instantly, i truly hate it
hard cc for dps needs to return, dive is too powerful, burst dive is insanely powerful
I’m aware the main argument is “Stuns effected tanks/immobile heroes more than mobile heros!”. I’m simply not willing to believe that when you consider how powerful highly mobile heroes were as soon as stuns were scaled back. Are we going to pretend that was a coincidence?
Yes, stuns are annoying, but the simple fact is that its bad design to give mobility to SOME heroes, and then remove counters to mobility. Every time you complain about Genji, for example, remember that they deleted a lot of …
Please, please, please, please, please, PLEASE bring back CC.
I never thought I’d ask for Mei’s freezing back but I never appreciated how important it was in checking flankers until it was gone. Plus it was core to her identity and it doesn’t feel like Mei anymore.
Likewise with McCree’s flashbang, Brigitte’s bash, etc
game needs stun back due to high mobility heroes, repear is a big issue… i don’t know how many games we are comfortably controlling for their team to pick reaper and then just own… it stupid that one hero can dictate a match. he just presses W and left click and kills. a 2 year old can do that… then he can wraith around and then ult… its stupid. i used to play brig and own him. now she has no cc its makes dealing with him harder. yo have other players say will head shot him. for one yo have to h…
And so on, and that’s just posts with explicit titles, there are a TON of posts that use “bring back CC” as a possible answer to another problem, for example :
Dive and flanking has easily become way more viable because of a single tank as well as more angles to attack from. The removal of a tank as well as most CC has made it a nightmare which brings the question of what you could rework to fix that. Bring back CC? Because everyone hated how much CC OW1 had but I don’t think anyone screamed to the heavens two tanks was the issue but shields were.
A ton of people didn’t want CC back. A ton of other people did want CC back. I think the best conclusion on CC must be this :
And another cycle begins. From “remove CC it’s unfun” to “bring back CC, it’s unfun without it”.
Can we pick one and balance it out finally?
I’m not looking for cc at all but several people have asked for it