If this is true… anything to try and make OWL more interesting I guess. Doesn’t matter if the core playerbase wants or doesn’t want it though… sadly.
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Sometimes a meta is just the sum of its part. The individuals are all balanced.
Dive meta was such example. If hero ban was in place during dive, we wouldn’t get the Brigitte disaster.
Ban D.Va. Dive becomes extremely counterable.
Ban Winston. Dive becomes impossible.
Except now we have Wrecking ball so dive doesn’t have one hero you can ban to remove it.
Hero bans would INCREASE mirror compositions. It reduces the playing field even more, and with the state of imbalance, there may only be 1 viable comp when you reduce the roster. Both teams will always ban the same hero/heroes.
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I highly doubt this will be the case. In most games with bans it takes place after the players have already set up, like in R6S the bans literally happen just before the playing starts.
Sounds like yet another nail to the coffin of overwatch. Now blizzard itself will give players the tools to dictate what heroes you’re allowed to play and what you are not.
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You don’t need to ban a hero to remove a meta. You just need to make the meta much less effective.
Hammond instead of Winston makes the dive dps easier to kill. Hammond instead of D.Va makes Winston a lot easier to kill.
Hero bans are the worst change they could go for tbh. Especially with tanking already having lack of numbers. Think que times are bad now for dps wait until people have to tank and also don’t have an option to play the tank the want. Like what do you think is going to happen to Orissa players if she is perma banned 70+% of the time? Probably either convert to dps players or not play anymore.
We need more reasons to encourage people to play tanks not less.
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By allowing players to ban heroes that hold together dominant metas. At high level right now youd be crazy not to run Orisa and Sigma. But most players at that level dont find Sigma to synergize that well with other tanks so if you ban Orisa…
That’s just one example. The point is that high level Overwatch tends to settle around a very dominant meta comp and letting players handicap that comp can give room to a lot of other heroes to be playable.
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Hero bans would have to stay at OWL level.
Which even if it does happen would just limit the number of possible counter comps. Thus reinforcing the meta even more.
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As long as you are only allowed to ban 1 tank per match then sure. 2 starts to get dicey. And if they did the whole 1-3-2 thing then no, it wouldn’t work.
But maybe it just comes to OWL. Honestly, I could see a lot of benefit to something like this coming to OWL and not the ladder. Imagine if they had hero bans at the pro level during Goats. Maybe some of those completely unnecessary nerfs to tanks and buffs to DPS wouldn’t have happened.
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Step 1: Ban the only tank and healer that works because it’s “anti-fun” to play against double barriers.
Step 2: Then spend the rest of the match *****ing that Roadhog and Dva are throwing/feeding.
Step 3: Lose the match, because the only tanks that matter right now are Orisa, Rein, and Sig.
Step 4: Report, and then wonder why queue times are increasing.
Step 5: Come to forums and suggest 1-4-1.
Step 6: Profit…?
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Yes, lets further restrict an already restricted hero roster thanks to 2/2/2.
Thats a wonderful idea
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Inb4:
Ban all shield tanks.
ban high healers.
Can’t wait to screw over one tricks hahaha not
hero bans shine a spot light on power creep no? not saying I don’t think bans should be a thing but this is band aiding the problem no?
That’s not how bans have worked in other team based games, and theres no particular reason overwatch should be different.
I’m sure what heroes are banned will differ based on who’s playing. If you’re a player or team who’s really good at the meta? Try and reinforce the meta by banning counters. If you prefer off meta strats? Ban one of the lynchpin heroes that holds together the dominant meta.
Generally though, it’s easier to sabotage a meta than to protect it with bans.
hey, you asked for hero bans…what do you want? ofc we gonna target most impactful heroes , also if its more than 1 banned hero, nobody is going to get to play widow. fact
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The thing is, that tank and healer are the ones that “only work” because they’re drastically better than the others. Get rid of them, and the other tanks and supports are suddenly not so bad.
Like, Baptiste is basically the only viable main support right now, but it’s only because he got a bunch of ridiculous buffs and is at a huge competitive advantage. There isn’t anything wrong with Ana or Mercy.
Guys… what if this is ONLY for OWL and not for the ranked ladder? I get why people may not want it in their games, but don’t you think it could be good for the pro scene?
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