Exactly. You cannot remove the damage. It just doesn’t work. They tried multiple times in the past. It doesn’t work. It’s time to try something new. Nerf breather or his base health or both. His damage is in a perfectly fine place. lets not mess around with it anymore
I mean the lead designer already said to a steamer that in mid-Jan they’re removing his combo kill, so as I’ve said, all I can hope for is a CC that is so abrasive people cry for the kill combo to return. Hog’s a tank with no shield, so that’s completely doable.
IDC for Hog to be lethal, I just don’t want him to feel like Ball does right now for most people.
Yes… as in I don’t care about his CURRENT identity and his CURRENT build.
go back and see what I quoted originally.
what i replied to was the misuse of 1 shot combo.
never made a statement defending it or not.
just said its a 1 2combo. not a 1 shot.
hog can just as easily run up to you and fire and kill you in 1 shot w/o the hook.
hook simplifies it.
fastest & easiest fix to it is reduce his dmg (or make em not able ot headshot) thus hook + even perfect aim wouldnt kill most heroes w/o some other dmg dealt prior or after.
I’ve got hundreds of hours on all roles, am t500 and honestly I agree. Support isn’t hard, but most people only pick support to avoid DPS q times and then play like dps
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And again, what a bizarrely pedantic thing to argue about. Next time discuss the point instead of meaningless technicalities
Everyone either starts with him or swaps to him
He is the best character in the game
And having a best character in the game ain’t a problem except when the said character is so disgustingly braindead and cheesy
I love how this dude had zero changes since OW2 came in and suddenly he is an issue.
Clearly theres not someone winkyface that is enabling him and clearly its not the multiple nerfs his counters and viable options (like Zarya) received.
Yeah he is the problem NOW. Ok 
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That’s not true. The only hero who had 0 changes going into OW2 was Moira
I think he could become a really interesting tank, if he could heal allies or give them damage reduction on the vape, use the hook more for displacement of enemies and a more accurate and consistent shotgun.
tbo i havent had a problem with his hook , just stay away and use medium / long range ranged heroes to put him down ,and position better , all this hog hate is ridiculous ,
all he needs is a small nerf to his heal may a second or two longer cd ?
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Found the hog player
how wrong you are i only play support .
If you say so mate 
i do , i only play support and alsways have since ow1
Do you understand english mate? I didnt say since OW1, I said “since OW2 came in”, which implies the changes to tanks are outside of that. Those already happened on the beta, they were not post launch really.
i iknow i was replying to opululence , do u not know how to read? read the last couple of replys a converation between me an opulence…
Ooooooh touchy 
Don’t see what relevance the beta has to this discussion with how few people got to play it. Furthermore, let’s not pretend Hog hasn’t been an ongoing problem since he was released
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Theres no “touchy” anything here dude, dont be weird.
You said “No thats not true” and it was, at least to anyone who understand English and again, you made up another claim with zero evidence.
He wasn’t.
Also you cant claim the OW2 beta has no relevance and start talking about 2016 lol. The state of Roadhog 6 years ago has zero relevance.
None at all 
Its not just 2016 tho, Hog has been on & off OP since he was introduced.