I think the problem with a lot of the dive heroes is that they are not necessarily op/ot on their own; But in a team environment they are far better than any other team comp in the game.
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The 1 damage nerf to soldier was considered a joke, where is he now?
Dive is the problem, not d.va.
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Exactly this, dive makes far better use of the map design than any other potential meta - thus it is played more than anything else.
Blizzard said she should counter Pharah. In fact, she always sort of has. They just made it easier.
Ad .5-1 second to DM or buff its recharge rate and you got a deal jim
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What I would do to ânerfâ dive is make more slight movement silences so there can be follow up, for example here are some ideas.
- Hog hook provides a .5 second silence on movement abilities (blink, recall, dash)
- Same as above for flashbang but it affects passive movement abilites too while also covering a larger area. However it no longer freezes enemies in place; My idea is that it should be a disorientation ability not a cheap kill.
What I would do is simply add more than 3 heroes per year so that there is much more variety and potential for different team comps.
Tbh I think the rate they go is fine I like a lot of the heroes already in game; More maps would be nice especially if they designed them in such a way that dive was not necessary.
The venice map for the event is supposedly an escort map too
Well this is the first I heard of a new map; Hopefully its another Kingsrow so deathball can be more frequent.
You are going in circles. Dva could do that when she had 4 seconds of DM. They took that away because people didnât like 4 seconds of DM and four good reason. With 2 seconds of DM she needed a way to maintain being a pharah counter. Blizzard also wanted to provide a counter that didnât require good hitscan play for lower ranked players and console players which was a popular request. So they gave her the ability to shoot while flying and they gave her rockets and let her shoot them with dm up. This did a few things. It let dva be the only hero in the game that can actually fly up and contest pharah. It also allowed DM to still be a reliable counter to rocket barrage and death blossom. With just two seconds of DM dva wouldnât be able to counter any ults. Before she countered all projectile ults. Now itâs just two ults that dm van counter reliably. Yet some how you want to revert all this and take us back to where we were before when dva was actually op to play against ![:thinking:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=5" ":thinking:")
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Too easy, in fact.
Or just revert the DM changes and give her the old one back. Am really I the only one who didnât really mind DM once it was reduced to 4 seconds of uptime?
If they cut missiles and reverted DM, thereâd be an outrage if she could shoot while DMing and shoot while flying because itâs a net buff to an iteration that people complained enough about to get a rework. 'S just not an option.
Like I said, Blizzard wanted that. Mostly because people asked for it. Thereâs nothing much we can do about it because Blizzard doesnât revert changes.
Well, I never said, âDo just thisâ. Her DM nerf came as compensation for the addition of the rockets, so no doubt going back to the old DM would see nerfs to other things, most likely the synergy between DM and her other abilities, like you said.
There wouldnât be an outrage if she could shoot while dming and shoot while flying, because she CANNOT shoot her primary fire while DMing anyway, and flying and shooting means she isnât flying and DMing.
What if she just couldnt dm and shoot missles and maybe a decrease of health back to 500? This could reduce the effectiveness of burst combos but still allow her to fly up and deal with a pharah.
The old D.va was reworked cus she was boring and oppressive in that it felt like you couldnât play the game when fighting her. She didnât need nerfing, it was just unfun - the same reason sombra has been nerfed. People donât like not being able to play the game.
Youâd only need one, not both. Too many nerfs at once will make her terrible.
I mean, at higher levels of play sure. Dive is really good. But itâs also one of the hardest comps to pull off which is why you donât really see it at Gold where the majority of the player base sits. You still see D.Va in Gold but thatâs because she pairs nicely with Reinhardt too.
In Gold, if you are running a full dive comp and the enemy team is running a cheese comp then you are probably going to lose. This isnât the case at higher elo though.
Compensate the nerfs with a more reactive dm than? D.vaâs current dm feels anoying to use, but I do not play her a lot compared to other tanks so I am unsure. I heard proâs suggest the range of it to get lowered.
Arguing it is kind of a moot point is what Iâm saying. Blizzard doesnât have plans to bring back a 4 second DM. Weâre better off musing over other ideas, know what I mean?
Itâs still technically a net buff to that iteration. Why would they bring back a heavily controversial iteration but with added damage potential?
It depends. I donât think she needs it, but Iâd rather it be using DM cancels any unfired missiles rather than DM is unusable during the deployment of missiles. Hereâs my issue with that though: itâs a kit that works against itself. Itâs clunky.
Sure, if you make her 400A/100H and you donât do the first change.