clarifications:
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I have been in no fight or fights. I have been in discussions
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In most discussions I have been in for the past 24 months or so, Socrates has been in perhaps 1 or 2 others aside from this one, if that. As such, no, what is described above doesnt actually happen much at all
some folks did indeed want a “training wheels” type mode where they had to account for far fewer possibilities
many folks however did not want such a mode, and still do not.
Myself included