Is attempting to convince people that the heroes with 2~3 damage tools in their base kits, ults that by themselves can wipe out an entire team, with extremely high damage output on just their primary fire alone. Who also have some of the best CC, mobility, and setup tools in the game. and many cases tools that ignore barriers and armor.
Are inherently made to kill things first and foremost, and not just attempt to stall out a fight for someone else to do that for you.
Doubly so when those same people fail to also turn their toolset on anything other then the enemy tank, and wonder why their getting countered every other game. As if their wasn’t 4 other heroes with only 1/4 the health pool they could shoot instead.
Then get angry at the game for doing the exact opposite of the thing the game is actively pointing you to do.
The funny part it’s not even just the DPS, tanks get way to focused on dueling the enemy tank. And tend to ignore the half health squishy standing two feet next to them, that is like a hammer swing or spear throw away from dying.
Like a d.va can just fly over a zarya and do a 260ish damage combo with jets~melee~and missiles. While holding DM over say a ana/cassidy that might otherwise be setting them up for failure.
yeah, i had a situation like that today as a matter of fact. i was pocketing a mauga as mercy…who was laying into a rammatra both guns a blazin, while the moira was off to the side pouring heals into the rammatra…i went on voice chat and said…calmly…“kill the moira”, to which he turned, dispatched her…and everything else on the point fell easily…
It kind of comes down to discussions regarding the balance of what characters can do in certain scenarios or against specific comps. And attempting to throw my hat into the ring that they can in fact get around those scenarios by being aggressive at the right targets, or by using map elements like cover or flanks to break LOS to tools like hack or blizzard and get your self into close range engagements without needing burn things like barrier just to get their.
Like shock pIkachu face you can shoot at other heroes other then then the tank thats attempting to counter pick around you.
Are you talking about supports? Yeah, I like playing Bap: extremely high damage, tools that enable that damage and his existence with 3 hp bars I also find very offensive use.
I can ignore barriers by having widow’s grappling hook no cooldown with the boots. I can even oneshot ppl faster than widow when I get my ult. Even without the ult I kill faster than widow, because I can re-peek foreve, I can take any angles and do whatever I want with that hero.
It’s meant to be open ended to both tanks and supports. As they are both in very similar camps of players not actively engaging with the combat aspect of their kits, that most of their playstyle is built around.
And are failing to meet up to the demands of the game when push comes to shove and they need to kill something to actually progress the round.
That’s true, they still believe that tank is to play the objective and call supports healers to healbot that afk on the objective (sometimes you gotta do whacha gotta do, but still, this is what you see most of the time in low ranks - the ranks who complain the most)
This is also partially an issue in high ranks, because players will get so fixated on the enemy tank. And not turn 2 degrees to the left to kill the ana or moria 2 meters from them.
And just stall out and blame counters as if their wasn’t a dozen other interactions they could have partake in.
i play hampter a lot so most of what i do is the exact opposite. if the tank turns around they are free pick for my team, yet if they dont they lose their backline and also a free pick
(sometimes you gotta do whacha gotta do, but still, this is what you see most of the time in low ranks - the ranks who complain the most)