Most Ashe players can’t even aim

Mccree is no counter to DF (according to IDDQD)

very true, but he’s better than Ashe most of the time.

Snipers are like Hanzo: doesn’t matter how many shots you miss

Agree with him tbh have always thought that dynamite was dumb. Majority of her damage that ppl do with ashe comes from it and its the easiest part of her kit lol

Yes and no.
If Ashe stays with team (which she normally wouldn’t because flanking against double barrier is strong) coach gun could f DF.

DF lack good counter play. Sombra is the only hero who can preemptively counter DF, everyone else when he is already commited

dynamite is healable… headshot isn’t

They can’t aim… But you are getting hit by dynamite? I think that is a YOU problem, homie.

I’ve thought this too but don’t have any way to prove it

Here is the thing, I agree with him, but as McCree, you are one of the only heroes who actually has the tools to deal with him. So I would rather be McCree than virtually anyone against Fist. But he still wins the MU. Or at the very least, the counterplay is not as simple as people tend to believe.

Oh no i got caught, my aim is kinda bad so i rely on dynamite to get kills.

Also don’t forget bob he can carry games while he is easy to use.

More likely it’s just the burst damage of her scoped shots that will be more effective against the Doomfist. Pretty much any cooldown you use on him as a hitscan, he can tank, escape to his healers, and be back in with full health and cooldowns before yours is anywhere close to being back.

It’s a toss up. I always hate it when Doomfist mains defend his OPness with “he has a big hitbox just shoot him lol”. Yes, his hitbox is big, but it’s odd, constantly shifting, and he’s constantly changing speeds as he is moving. His animations aren’t exactly intuitive either. If Overwatch had a size to difficulty to hit ratio in the game, I guarantee Doomfist would be on top. I have an easier time hitting Gengi.

Doesn’t help when I get constant noreg on Doomfist (and only doomfist). We’re talking full sound and visual effect, no damage. It’s not just on hitscan either. Happens all the time when I play Pharah.

I digress though. Point is, hitscan is kind of bad right now.

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I agree.
His effective hitpoints aren’t obvious, shielding, damage, mobility and netcode problems.
DF can even kill Ana faster than she can fire her sleepdart, otherwise players like ML7 wouldn’t have a problem against doom

We can only hope for a big change, overhaul

I feel the same about Ashe tbh. Like, she’s not a bad design. I don’t hate Dynamite (though I wished it’s DoT would decrease in duration).

but she’s not as high-skill as people make her out to be. BOB and dynamite as massive crutches.

Obviously 125% win rate.

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There’s 30 heroes, they’re never all gonna see use.