Moira's Damage is Fair

Yes- if Moira kills you its because you can’t aim, never mind Moira doesn’t have to express any aim skills herself :roll_eyes:

I see what you did there…bumped cause thumped? :rofl: lol.

Moira anger is the funniest next to Mei.

LOL … yeah

If you are interested you can just look it up, Canada and Sweden are great showcasings of “equality” and “Leftism” gone horribly wrong. Or “Swedistan” as it is commonly referred to now.

It seems to mostly a problem in the extremely developed 1st world countries, the frontiers of the 1st world phenomenon, somehow taking a huge step back.

But yeah.

It is the other way around, it is parents allowing and or demanding their kids gets surgery, (at ages way under 18, 15 even 13) because they “feel” like a girl. Having children before the age of 8-10 get hormonal treatments for the same reasons. Despite these things being very bad to act upon hastily and such.

I love to be polite to a person and respect them if they ask me to, making it a crime to mistakenly use a wrong one or not wanting to comply, when you are told to use specifics ones, resulting in jail times, fire and more. That is the stuff we are talking about.

That wouldn´t fix the issue instantly, neither would it fix the reason they are seperated to begin with, 45 men with 13 year old girls in the same Bathroom and much more, there are huge issues that arise with Unisex.

But that aside.

Well all the leftist movements ATM are straight up functioning on “Eye for an Eye” ideas.

Black lives matter is some of the most irrational and crime infested protest to hit the US in decades. Same issue arises in other areas but it was just for reference.

The biggest problem with all you are saying is. What does it matter, biology is well defined one way and only will be, instead of accepting that and making your “own” new definition for what difference you feel, you say that the inventor and invention is wrong and should accomodate you, when you are an anomally (most of the cases, unlike homosexuality, at least currently), that is irrational.

Ignore biology, if you don´t like biology, let it do and be what that is and build your own thing. Saying that there are multiple genders, when that is factually incorrecy by the sheer definition of gender and biology that build it doesn´t solve anything, it just makes you ignore it more.

Yeah that kind sucks and most rational people don´t agree with that assessment, but then you take it one step further and force christian people to marry LGBTQ people or face jail time over discrimination, when the church, the whole foundation of that belief does not account or accept this form of marriage to begin with.

This is the kind of issue that just ruins things more than it “fixes”.

But that isn´t how it works in the 1st world countries, Sweden is in shables, “rape capital of the world” etc because of their ridiculous ideologies against facts in terms of racial diversity and more.

Or Canada with genders and such.

Again arguing that one issue is okay, cause they face issues themselves is not a good excuse, it is simply a cop out. All forms of this is a problem.

Damn I can’t tell if this is sarcasm. My bad if it is and I missunderstood.

The only time Moira was picked over any other healer was back when double shield was a thing and she was heavily meta favored. Other than that, she has never been up there in high ranks because she lacks utility.
Check the real stats out there. No the “me stats”.

Besides that, she is a situational pick at best unless we are talking about plat and below.

How you did not know something so trivial?

If you can share the names of these accounts to see the overbuff stats I will be thrilled because you are either an anomaly semi-god with Moira at 70%+ and should be at the Top 10 healers of the planet or you are making this up.

I do think she needs a beam hitbox’s reduction. although, you are trying to back up your claims with “me” stats which is not representative of the entire OW community. And that is assuming your “stats” are not just made up like your “accounts”.

Right, that isn’t what is happening here. Like the US is ALL over the place.

Again, I’d LOVE to see news articles on this, because, that seems VERY VERY weird.

I went looking, and I saw a lot of scaremongering, but no cases of it happening.

Again, it didn’t happen here. But we have like, a functioning political system.

Irrational? if they were treated equally again, you wouldn’t have the same issues.

You had the anti lockdown people showing up with guns in federal building.

If they were black people they would have been shot pure and simple.

The US is crazy, and has CRAZY equality problems which need fixing.

It matters a lot.

I’m guessing this is a VERY religious view rather than a biological one.

Definitions change as models improve. As we learn more, we learn the world is more complex.

The world is not flat, it is not a sphere either. But one of these is closer than the other.

Right, and I said that was a problem, and we don’t force people to do that here. Some churches are ok with it, and they can, some are not, and they don’t.

Everyone wins.

Or maybe just be sensible in your solutions.

We ARE a first world country. We are just not a crazy one.

And yes. NZ would be pretty left wing compared to the US.

You would likely hate it here.

We are not particularly religious, we have high levels of equality, we went down hard the lockdown path, we are looking at having a UBI, Good public health system. Strong social safety nets. Very simple tax system. Low corruption.
Typically our police are not armed.
Very high immigration rates.
Housing however is super expensive, which is a real problem. Oh and earthquakes, volcanoes. etc.

Alright lets debunk your ignorance, Double shield lasted for 6 months pretty much, not to mention GOATS, where she was also the original pick and used.

Second of all right now is an Ana meta, Rein meta´s always favor Ana, so that is no different.

Right now her winrate is hovering between 52.50-53% at 3-4% pickrate in GM, that is not good, but it isn´t bottom of the barrel and with Ana´s dominance being as bad as it is, that heavily impacts most other healers here, especially main ones (Ana has 15% pickrate).

Lets see here, every rank until GM, Moira still has a higher winrate than even Ana. That means that in 99% of player games Moira can still win games better than Ana can factually, though at the higher ranks her pickrate dwindles, but even so at Diamond it is 6-7%.

Bronze to diamond account for 96-97% of all players in the game in ranked, meaning that Moira is not only compareable to Ana in all these circumstances but as we see in plat and below Moira is getting close to, or gets higher pickrate than Ana, while dwarfing her winrate, anywhere from 1-3%+ difference, which is a lot “when talking all games”.

So again, with the stats as backup, why are you “acting” like, what you are saying is true honey ?

DarkWaver, been t500 hitscan many times, so no wonder.

That is why the evidence was “x isn´t uncommon”, because it isn´t. I never said that is her average across ranks or anything, just that this happens and it isn´t a rare occasion, i know so myself for example. But even just the accuracy stats for her are astronomically higher than most other heroes. You can literally see many SS of this if you just search for it. Again as stated, Moira has no downsides to not holding left click you do it regularly to break stuff as well, all this drags her Acc down, a lot. In the end already 60-70 for myself as a none Moira main, just showcases how stupidly easy it is, especially, when it is through modes and games that aren´t taken seriously (at least not by the one doing this, which is me).

Also you cannot look up Acc stats on moira on Overbuff and more, but you can feel free to try if you know how, Most versions of DarkWaver and even this account (if i have played Moira on it, would showcase it i pressume), also if you find a way i would love to know how as i do not.

There was no “me” stats to begin with, the “Me” stats was a reference point, after you attacked the claim of the common occurence of high acc games, that you can find with said hero.

You said it was impossible said the best in the world don´t even have it, well here we are, i have the same stats as them and i ain´t even playing her.

This isn´t a US only issue though, more of a 1st world issue, afaik, sweden and canada would prob be around the same issues in that realm.

Look up everything about Jordan peterson if i am aware he started a career as a speaker as a result of him getting fired because of this exact issue. Maybe i got him mixed up, but i think it was him.

I must admit i don´t know much about your country, but i do know that it isn´t inherently seen as a pioneer for all other countries like, the US, (Some parts of EU), Scandinavia and some other countries are. So saying they have a “none functioning political system” might be correct, but who knows.

Yes irrational, like how loads of the claims they make are factually incorrect, like white cops shotting black kids. Blacks being shot more etc etc. The government have many stats to back up how blacks face equal “seeing” in the police eyes, because of their insanely high crime rate compared to everyone else.

Same for the fact, that more black cops shoot black people than white cops etc, just to mention a few of the top of my head IIRC.

But that isn´t the biggest issue, their riots and protest are harmfull, extremely violent and damages other people lives and economy. People are killed in high rates with BLM movement protests and more.

That is an issue and it is irrational if you are advocating for indifferent treatment and “human rights”.

They prob still have loads of issues, but there are also several issues that are beyond pandering and brainwashed information spreading.

To me it don´t, especially in a game about a separate universe.

Biology has one definition of the word, which they invented and it in no way constitutes all the genders and former mental illnesses that none biologist claim and or want it to.

The definition of gender hasn´t changed as a result of us finding more missing links in the equation. All the new genders, doesn´t have extra genes, that make them matter for another category, which the original definition was built upon, meaning there is no reason to change the model. As it still only functions in that one way.

This would be equal to saying our definition of “volume” should be changed, cause it doesn´t fit my self expression about identity. They don´t even relate, that is why it is an issue.

That is good, for you, this isn´t how it is everywhere sadly. But glad that it works in your country, cause it doesn´t in far more cases than US and Canada.

Tell that to the LGBTQ, it is their “solutions”.

I am sorry, i used the wrong term definitely here, as it doesn´t mean the same as the word i translated from my language. Your country isn´t a pioneer seen and upheld as a showcasing of what countries aspire to be like, the same as some of your fellow “first world countries”.

Also hard to believe you are more left wing than i can handle, i live in Denmark and Sweden is right next door. I couldn´t imagine NZ is too much for me.

Sounds like my country, except we have most of it already, most of it for years. To put it into perspective.

Of anything, this I find surprising.

I thought you were mid US. You SOUND like mid us from what you are talking about.

Maybe that is where you should be, your values would match up with the values of the people around you.

This is literally one of the core responsibilities of EVERY support hero. If you think otherwise, you are just a dps main masquerading as Support so you don’t have to wait in dps queue.

No. She was used but was not meta by any chance. Lucio Brig and Zen were the most picked on the ladder. OWL aside since they can play w/e they like.

Where are you getting this from?
Ana has had a 36%+ pickrate for the past month. 38%+ pickrate for the past 3 months. And 26%+ pickrate for the past six months.
On the same periods of time, Moira has a had a 9%+, 7%, 9%+.

Winrates:
Plat: Ana= 50.41% Moira= 51.52%

Diamond: Ana=52.38% Moira=52.58%

Masters: Ana=52.09% Moira=52.21%

GM: Ana=53.78% Moira=53.13%

These are 6 months stats. You are saying that “Moira still has a higher winrate than even Ana” which statistically speaking, is wrong.
Do you even know how stats work,

?

Nice. You have two games won as Moira and you want to use those (non-existent) “hundreds of hours as Moira” to prove your point of having 60%-70%+ accuracy with her beam? LMFAO

You are only showcasing your ignorance at this point, since you assume that a less than 1% difference between Moira and Ana is signicant enough to say that she wins more games than the grandma healer.

Not to mention that you have barely hours on her and claim to have an incredible accuracy of 70%+ with Moira.

You have only shown that you can (barely) read numbers but you can’t by any means read stats, so I will abstaing myself from replying to you anymore.

Have a nice day :smiley:

her RMB damage is fair even dare i said its abit underpowered

but her hitbox is not

nerf the hitbox alot, from 1 meter to 0.3
still larger than zarya 0.15 and sym 0.2

and buff her damage after that like 60 or something

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She was the original GOATS comp meta and regurlarily top pick on ladders, the zen/Ana goats was used more so in scrims and tournaments. Still it was rarely played on ladder to begin with.

IDk where you are getting your incredibly ignorant stats from, but mine are Overbuff, all characters last month. Where 16.66% is 100% aka max for a character.

All are accurate you can look em up yourself.

Are you serious, are your eyes malfunctioning or something wrong with your head ?

Ever stat you posted, has Moira above Ana except in GM. as i said, "every rank

until GM".

Not only this, plat to GM is 49% of the playerbase, plat is 25% alone and already here Moira is over a percentage higher than Ana. The rest of the 51% are even worse.

What two games won ?

Do you know that there isn´t a way to see all game data on heroes on “stat tracking” websites. Or are you just this out of your element here.

If you don´t know the effect of small percentages in winrate, across all games played in total, idk why you are even here arguing, you clearly know little about winrates and how 1-3% winrate changes (At a full scale of all games, is a lot).

Idk why you wanted to lie outright to my face here, the claim was 60-70%+ on different accounts, yet did you actually see and look up that ACC stat and the actual amount of “Total hours” played, or are you just willfully ignorant to the fact, that you can´t do any of this :slight_smile: Kid

Please do so, i think you leaving the forums would be for the best kid, you litterally lied outright, not being able to see that the own numbers you posted has completely supported my claim of Moira having higher winrates in every rank until GM. Not to mention you ignored over 51% of the playerbase stats, the fact that 75% of ranks she isn´t even that far away in pickrate and that the further down you go, it gets extremely bad.

Please see an ophthalmologist, it would really save you this amount of embarassment.

Nah, i agree with the values of logical and rational ideas. I don´t hate my own country i find it amazing, but i am afraid of my country going into a state like Sweden, who is in shambles as a result of said leftism, no doubt.

You know that they are deleted after every patch right???

I agree with your second paragraph, not the title. Moira should lose her damage orb or it could be hardly reduced. It is way too much damage going through the map. So easy.

I figured that was going to be a no.