Moira needs both Rework & Nerf

Well I guess for some Ignorance is bliss :woman_shrugging:

I hate Moira. Like to the point of irrational hatred. But there is zero reason to nerf her at all, that would just be ludicrous. Yes some support heros are busted-but Moira is NOT one of them.

Just don’t get diffed by Moira 4Head

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No offense but there is no concern for real discussion in this forum anymore, confirmation bias and echo chamber group think is what this forum has become, There is no room for such a discussion as those who take part only wish to be validated on what is in there minds not to properly internalise and inwardly put bias aside and think with real logic, that’s why I keep it short and sweet.

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the best comment . .

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But since it was confirmed that’s not to happen this is our 2nd best option.

You could have just said ‘I don’t want to discuss it.’ It’s all good, we all have characters we hate.

Chin up, the support nerfs are coming soon, maybe you’ll get your wish?

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Aaaand there goes your credibility as well as any claims on the subject of skill.
If I can fight off a Moira as a Symmetra without Turrets and Support from my team, you are doing something VERY WRONG to have experiences, directly or indirectly, that allow you to have that opinion.

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That is inaccurate. Moira is bad, because she literally does nothing except healing closely stacked groups a lot and having fade. She gets outclassed by every support, except in Metas where you both need high surviveability as support AND a lot of group healing AND a low range.

Ana is not the reason Moira is so bad. In Overwatch 1 Moira was even quite good against Ana, because she could constantly force Anas nade out with well placed damage orbs. That statement is not just from me, but from high ranekd Ana mains such as ML7 as well, Ana was not a counter to Ana.

Moira Metas often actually had beaten Ana comps when they were Meta usually. Take Goats as an exampl: Ana was common in Spam based comps, but Moira Goats was used to rush these comps down with the high sustain. Moira was only replaced later, after Goats has become the default, because Zen Goats was doing better in the Mirror, thanks to the better lane control and ultimate. Or take Winston/DVA/Reaper/Sombra/Moira/Lucio comp, before this comp was becoming Meta, Ana has been used in other comps and was doing well. That Ana would make Moira useless is just untrue

Moira is just an incredibly poor designed Hero which needs an entire Rework, it is not that she is just coutnered. She just offers very little and only excels in very niche situation, that is her problem and not Ana.

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rework…? maybe she does need that, is she OP…? not at all
she becomes so weak beyond plat and random quick play lobbies.

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L take from a salty bronzie.

Moira is one of the worst heroes in the game. She needs buffs, not nerfs.

Hit your shots and you can 1v1 moira on literally any other hero

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Worst support need nerfs?

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Moira isn’t doing anything easier or harder than any other Support hero. And historically, the Support role is filled with very easy to play heroes like Moira. Rarely do you see Support heroes with some actual difficulty like Ana, or Baptiste; and even they are still easier to play than Tanks or Damage-role heroes.

Just don’t panic when she’s attacking you and you will be able to land more shots on her. And try to avoid her until she uses her orb.

Moira: destroyer of n00bs

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Spittin facts! Moira is great against beginners or folks who overextend, but GARBAGE against any skillful opponent.

She can outduel Zens 1v1 though, and that’s my favorite aspect of the hero! The rest of her is doodoo

I agree that she is the easiest hero to play at a good level, but she is far from being too strong/overpowered.

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Idk why people say she’s not a problem.

Her skill expression is broken. Way too good at low tiers and way too bad at higher tiers IS a big sign of a problem and needs a rework. Also, there is no one-sided beginner-friendliness in a PvP game, cause beginners who don’t pick it should also play against them, meaning it is makes the game much more beginner-unfriendly than it is beginner-friendly.

I agree that she absolutely needs a rework. However the rework should leave her in a stronger state at higher elos while being less of a pubstomper.

Moira is the worst support in the game

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So is Reinhardt if you play him right. :hammer: :smiling_imp:

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