Yes, you do take people in bias with a grain of salt, but in the face of someone who has no such bias, that is also something to be considered. It’s not irrelevant when bias is assumed and opinions are dismissed any time someone thinks Genji only needs minor nerfs. Then those same people act confused when the decisions don’t go their way as if their opinions were “obviously” right and unbiased.
It’s not the least important. It’s what’s making him so powerful. Being able to charge a team-wiping ult in 30-60 seconds is incredibly powerful.
In any case, the goal is not to remove Genji from the meta, nor should it be. It’s only to bring him back in line with the next strongest DPS. If you’re arguing that his nerfs should put him back where he was, that’s not going to happen.
He had literally wall climb dash double jump they were never touched. The damage buffs make his life easier and that’s the point. His damage was trash before and he couldnt finish off targets as there is so much healing the game that his abysmal damage compared to other dps were joke. He just went for finishes before which any dps could have done and better. The damage buffs turn him from someone trying to finish his teammates kills into an actual dps that can finish off targets on his own if he is capable and the enemy team are dumb and cant peel. The deflect buffs are weird but they do not help with dash resets really. Deflect cancel was literally only introduced for genji when he fights character that have stuns he can deflect. That’s meant to make it alot easier for him in these duels and just a general QoL buff which alot of the cast have received over time.
The deflect having longer time does not him have dashes more often
I didn’t say it was the deflect that made him dash more often. I said his damage buffs which makes him get kills or lower the targets so someone else finishes for him, so it resets more often because of this.
That’s aligned with what you just said.
Deflect is just a piece of more survival in his kit, I shouldn’t have isolated it and analyzed it separately.
he does need a big nerf to his ult charge as he has it too often.
Genji has a lot of advantages, from being one of the harder characters to hit, having great movement abilities and the best passive in the game and a deflect. additionally he’s able to do a lot of damage and has far too much ammo in his clip for the amount of damage he can do. seeing as he can very easily play at a range where he can consistently get headshots, and largely has the advantage at that range, there aren’t enough drawbacks. those headshots aren’t necessarily hard to hit either. his hitbox is also more favorable than most characters and there are very few things you can expect ladder players to do about a nano’d genji blade, especially considering how often he has it. and he doesn’t really need to have insane awareness to do well with it.
i vote take away the dash reset on ult and nerf his clip down to about 18 and his rate of fire to .65 to .75.
he is undoubtedly too strong right now and is sitting on the edge of a pickrate in gm where you can just expect to see him on both sides and having a dps that isn’t genji at that level puts you at a disadvantage.
You forgot the incredibely loud mechanic keyboard !!! How is your stream going to realize how COOL and HANDSOME of a ninja player you are if they can’t even hear your keyboard noises ??
Alright now you are just spamming threads. This is the 100th thread you made about how “Pros say genji is alright therfore hes balanced, learn to counter lmao forehead”
Reference: h ttps://www.hotspawn.com/how-the-paris-eternal-claimed-the-owl-throne/
Here’s a direct quote from the article: “The result was that Genji rocketed back to the top of the meta. Not only could Genji farm his Ult more quickly, he was also a much more effective damage dealer. Throughout the final week of qualification it quickly became clear that the fate of the Summer Showdown rested on the shoulders of every team’s Genji.”
The typical power rankings for the Paris Eternals during that time did not rate high chances of winning the OWL finals – all that changed when the OP buffs to Genji became a part of the post-season at that time.
There’s a good reason why it is the usual policy for Blizzard not to implement buffs and nerfs for OW heroes when there’s an important ongoing tournament happening, and it’s a wise policy. I think the OP Genji changes warped the competitive integrity of the OWL, if the balance team is willing to do that for additional streaming/OWL views, then I don’t trust Blizzard’s balancing process.
Blizzard balance decisions have long warped the competitive integrity of the whole of overwatch, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an egregious mistake from the balance team that has affected even owl team rankings so much as genji buffs.
It’s pretty bad that they chose to do this, teams playing in owl depend on them to keep competitive integrity intact. If it’s not team based skill game anymore but “who has managed to buy the best genji for their team”, it’s no longer a team game but which dps can carry the hardest and teams don’t matter anymore.
They have shattered everything owl stood for in one string of genji buffs. Imagine what kind of a message does that show to the rest of the playerbase, that it doesn’t matter if you have the best team if you don’t have this single carry dps player who has the better genji.
Oh mb then it’s that you put deflect and other abilities I thought you were talking as if he couldnt do it before. The damage buffs are doing its purpose. The only downside to them is that he gets ult so fast it might as well not be an ult but a pocket ability. The only nerf he needs is 15% ult charge cost increase. To make have almost the same cost as sigma ( Sig has 1960, Genji after that nerf 1932) and that way he is in line with the dps line up. Rn if he we ignore his ult he is actually ok as is. It’s just he is a different hero with different playstyle now.
The most urgent change is the right click – it’s better than Reaper’s left click. It doesn’t take that many right clicks from Genji to lower a tank’s health enough to do a dash-kill-reset. If they don’t change that, they might as well remove Reaper from the game.
I agree with ML7. That has been my experience as well. Genji should build his ult about the same rate as support ults so that there is always counter play or tradeoffs.
This would make sense if a hero wasn’t broken enough to inflate that person’s elo to begin with.
What more proof do you need. Super, a tank main who has never been known for his flexibility was able to trash on world class players in OWL by playing Genji.