It is if your teams coordinated and plays together. And you’re right, she’s just actually the hardest thing to kill, so much so it took multiple nerfs just for owl players to do it reliably.
Continue with that bias though
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We need to distinguish those who want a “Mercy 1.0 revert” and those who want a “Mercy 3.0” with the necessary tweaks of the res as an ult too.
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She puts herself in a lot of danger while ulting and there isn’t even a good reward for that.
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I think people are just bored of having mercy be undoubtedly the best support in the game in all tiers of overwatch. It’s time for something new.
Besides, despite all of the nerfs she is still the most played hero by a long shot so just relax. What’s unfair is mercy mains making it seem like they are the only people playing this game and all the other people on their team are just bot tanks and dps players.
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inb4 someome dismisses this as a “complaint thread” rather than criticism
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You’ve hit the nail on the head if we pretend you aren’t being sarcastic.
It is exactly that. Valkyrie is completely outclassed by its ultimate counterparts. Supercharger is a 50% amplifier over a larger area and it affects 6 players rather than 5. Transcendence heals at six times Valkyrie’s healing rate, allowing it to actually combat enemy ultimates and focus fire.
Neither Transcendence nor Supercharger turn the player into a spectator for 15 seconds.
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Mercy’s ultimate effectively keeps her safe and allows her to damage boost and heal her whole team. It is definitely game changing when used effectively.
And healers shouldn’t be able to not be out-damaged or nobody would die ![:slight_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=5" ":slight_smile:")
Her healing output SHOULD be be beaten by other healers, actually. Mercy is the easiest of the support roster, there is no reason she should be as strong as she is in comparison to other supports.
Now, let’s do something-
Takes genuine skill, is one of the hardest to use and one of the easiest to counter. Heck, even if she wall hacks, you can just wait for it to run out.
yet it easily stopped.
This is interesting, as you are using one of the worst ultimates in the game. He stands virtually still, he GLOWS, and he slowly locks on to the enemies. There’s more than enough time to one-tap him with Widow or Hanzo. Or deflect it, or get behind a shield, or literally walk behind the wall next to you.
bahahaha
And one of the easiest to avoid in the game.
Are you really complaining about Pharah’s ultimate??? Oh jesus.
Good thing there’s efficient counterplay.
I’m… not even touching this.
Agreed!
Now here’s the issue. Mass Rez was unfun to play against and had no real counter. EVERY fight was a matter of “find and kill Mercy!”, even in the pro tournaments. You’re comparing them to ultimates that all have efficient counterplay, which I find interesting.
But, FUN IS SUBJECTIVE. Which is important. There was an easier fix- add LoS, and a cast time for mass rez. Maybe make the cast time larger depending on how mant people are being revived.
Ill agree that Mercy got screwed, but at this point I don’t see the point in continuing to talk about it. Blizzard isn’t going to change their minds, and we all know it.
ugh
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Mercy is not a tank, or an off healer. If you’ll notice off healers have team saving defensive ults. Zen, Lucio and Brigitte.
Now Main healers, They have offensive ults with defensive capabilities. Ana’s Nano, 50% damage and 50% resist to one target. Moira’s Coalescence’s, Heals and Damages enemies in a straight line. Mercy, Heals and Damage boost’s her entire team for 30% Damage.
Why exactly do you think a main healer should take an off healers job? Didn’t mercy already do that to Lucio once. Have a heart.
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Difference is that Supercharger is easily destroyed, Mercy is not. Nor does it move with your team. And Supercharger doesn’t make you a spectator, but it doesn’t change the way you play at all. You put it down and you keep shooting. That’s not very exciting.
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And why is that suddenly a rule?
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When has it not been the case?
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It isn’t a rule, but it is definitely a pattern. Main healer’s ultimates keep healing, outside of Ana, and off healers tend to save the team.
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Quote incoming.
The one downside Supercharger has in comparison to Valkyrie is that it needs to be protected, but considering the rest of Orisa’s kit, that isn’t terribly difficult. She has her barrier to cover it and her hitbox is a good size to body-block enemies from attacking the drum, especially with Fortify to help her do so. The only good options there are to destroy the Supercharger are to flank or to get in close… neither of which are great ideas when the entire enemy team is dealing 150% of their normal damage output.
25 meter range solves that problem.
Not changing the way someone plays is a hell of a lot better than turning someone into a spectator.
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Valkyrie is easily the most versatile ult in the game and it can be hugely impactful when used correctly. It’s by no means a bad ult. What it does not do (and isn’t meant to do) is out-heal incoming burst damage from ults and such. If you don’t try to use it for that, it’s basically a free fight win. That’s game-changing to me.
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Well, there was Mercy 1.x…
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To be fair they kind of fixed that with the recent buff to Ana, but the 50% damage resistance was a lot more powerful than people gave it credit for, mostly cause it was not nearly as flashy as a nano blade.
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Yeah, and that was clearly a problem that was fixed. Mercy was intended to have the current ultimate she has now.
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I don’t get why people think this is a valid argument.
Valk can do the two things, boost and heal. Obviously when it had two uses, neither use should be better than that of a single-use ult. Jack of all, Master of none is one of the most basic balance rules.
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It’s not that they don’t care. It’s that they don’t agree. No matter how many people post every day that “Valk is bad”, it won’t change the fact that it’s not and they just don’t know how to use it. That’s why it won’t see changes.
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Don’t bother my friend. Mercy mains will forever think their curvy swiss babe is under powered. You could literally give her instant rez on no cool down and you’d still find people like that on these forums.
Just in a previous post I was told to “just shoot the valking mercy, it’s a widow’s job to click on her head while flying”.
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