SB has counterplay in itâs cast time allowing it to be stunned/CCâd/killed/whatever, but I also consider EMP counterplay because you can immediately nullify the effects of his ultimate. You canât press a button to immediately nullify the effects of Mass Rez, even if you use something like High Noon or Deathblossom all of that can still be avoided by their OWN counterplay.
MoresoâŚwhy SHOULD the enemy team have to wipe Mercyâs team and then REWIPE her entire team after she has rezzed them? Why is that a fair mechanic? Especially when the Rez is on the most mobile and slippery hero in the game. I donât consider that a healthy gameplay mechanic, nor do I think using ults to wipe 5 people and then having to use more ults to re-wipe them 3 seconds later is considered âcounterplayâ.
This is why I brought up Zen and Lucio ult as being proactive. They are simply means of preventing death, or at least making you less likely to die, and they arenât fullproof. They can be bursted through, focus fired through, EMPâd or antiâd or whatever. They feel fair. Mass rez was not fair. It was reactive and there was no way of stopping it, your only hope was to re-wipe everyone who was just revived. And considering you have most likely just spent a lot of cooldowns/ults on securing said kills and might even be relatively low health if the fight has just ended, an entire team coming back at full HP to re-fight you straight away usually ended with you getting smashed.
The principle of Mass Rez wasnât fair or healthy for the game, and thatâs my opinion. But apparently the Devs were of the same opinion because they said such and removed it, and I am glad they did. It didnât feel fair for me as the Mercy using it either, and I know it didnât feel fair at all for the enemy. It felt dirty and cheap to use. It was dirty and cheap by design.
I was simply explaining why Mercy was reworked and why the Devs have stated they arenât bringing back mass rez and havenât for 3 years. Thereâs no need to convince people of something thatâs been changed for good and has been explained by the Devs countless times. I donât need people to believe me, I know how Mercy works and I know why she was reworked and I support the Devsâ reasoning behind it. Iâve supported the general idea and concept of the rework since it first hit PTR and will continue to do so, Iâm very glad they replaced Mass Rez with a more engaging and skillful ultimate and have overall improved Mercyâs kit. All I want now is some boosts to her healing output and maybe to make Valk shorter and more bursty, but I wouldnât mind if they kept it the way it is, and Mercy would be perfect
I simply bring up the lack of counterplay when I see all of these posts from Mercy mains who say âBring back Mass Rez it was fine and balanced and had fine counterplayâ âBring back Mass Rez and just add LoS and it will have no more hide and rezâ because itâs clear they lack an understanding of the ultimate or the game as a whole. But I mean, the Mercy players on here also said Mercy would be underpowered when she was first reworked since Mass Rez was gone and she âwould be trash without itâ, and then after every nerf she was âdeadâ, and many have only asked for mass rez back for three years, disregarding anything else. At this point it feels like they didnât love Mercy, they loved Mass Rez.
I want Mercy to be fun, balanced, and impactful, regardless of if Rez is in her kit. It feels like many Mercy mains on here want her to have Mass Rez, regardless of if sheâs balanced or fun or impactful. Itâs clear that many of them only loved the shiny Q press, not the actual hero. And that they are willing to overlook all of the issues it had in order to try to get it back. The tactics have changed over the past three years:
- âBring Back Mass Rez Valk is OPâ
which then became
âBring Back Mass Rez Valk is bad and boringâ
- âMercy will always be OP with E rez, we need it as her ultâ
is now
âE rez is horrible and useless and Mercy sucks, we need it as her ult!â
Even though E rez hasnât changed
Or âMass Rez will counter GOATSâ has now become âMass Rez will cause more diversity due to defensive ults!â
The arguments keep changing, itâs just like a desperation to bring back a singular mechanic, with whatever justification is necessary.
I just canât imagine how much more productive it would be to focus that same amount of energy into asking for realistic changes like
- Make Valk shorter and heal more
- Have Valk main beam heal more than chains to bring back target prioritization
- Increase GA speed in Valk again to compensate for reduce Duration
- Give Valk better graphical visuals to better reflect the ultimateâs power (brighter, thicker, more powerful beams)
People refuse to even try to work with Valk even though the Devs have said itâs here to stay for good, and Jeff also said he believes itâs the best direction for Mercy (I agree) and that they will continue to iterate upon it accordingly and as needed, but are keeping it regardless.
Maybe when OW2 comes out and they add some forms of instant or mass rez into the PvE talents the Mercy players who missed the ult, and nothing else, can have fun there.