“Mercy shouldn’t be looked at because she’s been meta for months”

Hi OP, would like to know who you quoted your topic title from!

lol she has been meta BECAUSE OF RESURRECTION and the current meta shoves her out of the limelight by deathballing into the position SHE NEEDS TO RESURRECT and preventing her from being able to be very effective.

Because of the offensive capability of Supports and Tanks that is superior to the offensive capability of DPS in unison. Because of, most notably, Brigitte who is a tank dps support hybrid.

I don’t know why you people even complain when you have 200 hours clocked and still know nothing about the game.

If you want to blame something, don’t blame the rework that was sorely needed and don’t blame a 20% healing nerf. Blame Brigitte and Resurrect, two things that really have no place in Overwatch because they are completely broken.

And then have gone on to delete several different play styles. That’s not OK and I will never say that it’s ok. And no I’m not just talking about Mercy.

She’s not yours. You don’t own her. She doesn’t have to be what you want, because what’s best for her is for her to be what the game needs.

The community who are loudly, constantly demanding a change to mercy are being toxic trolls. They are not allowing any conversation of any kind to the point where they will flood into threads that have nothing to do with mercy, and loudly claim that nothing in this thread matters because mercy needs changes.

Balance in a game like Overwatch is a moving target at the best of times, and you have to take into account that “balance”, to many players, means “I win”. On top of that, everyone has their own, personal fixes they want to see and nothing else will ever make them happy.

Does mercy need changes?

Everyone needs changes.

But that’s not what we’re talking about. At least, that’s not what I’m talking about.

In my opinion, Mercy is low-priority right now because while she may be a bit weak we’ve seen nothing but mercy for the past two years, and she’s anything but unviable even in her current state. She can afford to stay as she is since dev man-hours are a finite resource and she’s already had attention in almost every patch for the past year.

The devs will come back around and adjust her balance at some point.

She should not be a priority right now. The priority right now should be changes aimed at making the roster more diverse than it was in the past OWL season in the upcoming season. To improve gameplay for the players who have been waiting patiently for a while (in some cases, like for bastion and torb players, for over two years) for their heroes to be viable for the first time ever.

Mercy can wait. The world is not ending. She’s not perfect and it sucks, but try to look at it from a high-altitude perspective. There are other heroes who need attention more, and just because she doesn’t get changed immediately doesn’t mean she gets deleted from the game, or that you can’t pick her and still get work done.

TL;DR: Calm down and let other heroes have a turn.

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given her 50 hp/s:
Name 1 other healer whose team WOULD STILL DIE with healer using their ultimate vs a winston just holding MB1?

when you bring nothing but a subpar heal that cant beat an AoE normal attack fro ma hero and your ONLY “perk” is a rez which is only able to be used if something has went horribly wrong and is extremely difficult to use in a teamfight…

Ana’s ult is a full heal (on all but tanks) and damage buff (utility is group healing/healbuff/anti heal debuff and sleep cc.)

Brig’s ult is armor/movementspeed (utility is passive healing on top of stun and knockback)

Moira has an AoE heal/dmg ult [at nearly 3x mercy’s healing] (utility aoe heal/dmg orb)

Lucio ult gives team a MASSIVE shield that literally nothing can get through for a good amount of time. (utility is knockback and aoe movement speed buff)

Zen ult is AoE heal that only allows high burst damage to kill those in it [read as its basically full heal to non tanks every 1sec] and God mode to himself. (utility is Discord orb and arguably his dmg output as he can 1shot ppl)

every single other healer(ana may be ST heal, but she has cc to sleep the ape same with brig) wouldnt lose a single person to the Ape while using Ult.

Mercy is the ONLY support who could not keep a single person alive with her ult active vs a single monkey.

Every other support has either better healing in general, some form of CC, proactive utility, and/or better effective ults.

I will not say Rez is weak…its rez. it is always powerful, but it has a cast time, you are 90% dead if u use it in a teamfight, AND you can not heal anyone else during the cast time (which means someone else is liekly to die negating your rez in a way)

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How do you expect yourself to be taken seriously when you’re talking about Brigitte that literally has no place or relevance in this discussion?

Can you go 5 minutes without mentioning how much you hate Brigitte? Because it definitely seems like you can’t as you brought her up when she wasn’t mentioned in this thread at ALL. There are plenty of Brigitte hate threads on these forums. Go complain there.

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That’s exactly what I am going to tell you. We are consumers of the game. It’s a lot of undeserved gall you have to presume that it’s your place to demand anything of Blizzard. It is Blizzard’s job and only goal to keep the game balanced. Just because you don’t agree with their definition of balance or their changes means nothing.

She was reworked originally for a plethora of reasons, least of all being that most of the playerbase (Mercy mains notwithstanding) wanted it/ They did not like ‘mass rez’. It felt unfun to play with/against and encouraged bad game behavior and caused Mercy to be played in a way that the devs did not intend from the getgo. It does not matter if the Mercy players liked it or not; there are a lot more players in this game who are not Mercy mains, who also deserve the game to be balanced. You can’t just blame and shame the devs for trying to balance their game because it’s not the balance changes you want.

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Well that’s hyperbolic in the extreme.

Mercy: 50 hps

Winston: 60 DPS, 100 ammo, 20 aps, 1.5s reload.

Winston damage cadence: 300 damage over 5 seconds, then 1.5 seconds dead time, then re-damage.

Mercy healing cadence: 50 hps…never, ever stops.

Interacting cadence: Winston effective 10 dps for 5 seconds (total 50 damage), followed by 1.5 seconds dead time (reload) where mercy heals 75 damage, then restart.

End result, Mercy out-heals winston by 25 health over a full clip.

So you’re wrong. Just, completely and totally wrong.

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You mean other than a limited number of designers and developers? The bodies working on Overwatch are not finite and balance changes become that much more difficult with every new hero release.

Reinhardt still has bugs after two years and a number of attempts by Blizzard to work out the shield/shatter issues. The two shield tanks are in a very bad place right now, because few people want to play them. Symmetra has been F-tier and still is F-tier after multiple re-works. Sombra and Doomfist have been headaches, going from F-tier to must-haves. Brigitte solved the issue of dive, but made the game feel worse over-all. Roadhog has game-breaking bugs. Some of the other core DPS like Soldier and McCree are in bad spots right now.

But sure, Mercy is everything; screw everyone else and keep spamming.

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I feel like I need to link this,Mercy "Middle-Ground" By ZodiHD its a discussion I made for finding a balanced middle ground for everyone.

Actually, it’s more like: They took Mercy, who in their own words is about “her amazing healing and mobility” (I can look for the interview where they said that, if you want me to) and then made her go through quicksand for almost 2 seconds for using one of her basic abilities which prevents her from using both her amazing mobility and healing, then nerfed the latter so even that feels lacklustre now.

Let’s face it, an ability that brings one or multiple people back after they’ve been killed was never going to work on a static cooldown, because it will feel always feel cheap to use and play against that.

Just get rid of resurrect as a whole, I don’t think it is or should be what defines Mercy.
Give her something else, there have been great suggestions, like a cleanse to deal with the amount of CC and debuffs. Or something that I really liked was a skill-shot ability that reduces the damage an enemy does for a few seconds.

This, Valkeryie is boring and a chore, would rather lose it and have the power put into the rest of her kit if they aren’t willing to give her something new.

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And yet they said zip about Tracer or Genji being meta pretty much forever lmao (they being the players)

As someone who witnessed the crisis of S6 and watching people come to the forums in droves whining that mercy was broken and unplayable because they couldn’t rez their entire team on 2cp (one of the worst game modes ever created) anymore when she got a budget supercharger & transcendence as well as an instant rez then proceeded to break the game by being so OP it was disadvantaging your team if you didn’t have a mercy…

I can’t really say that the notion I that I’m not serious about the discussions I choose to participate in because I think Brigitte should be deleted from the game really bothers me because most of you have no idea what you are talking about or why there was ever any kind of meta.

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All we can hope is that the absolutely unneccessary 60 -> 50 HPS nerf brings much closer the date that she is finally, finally reverted.

I still hold out for the tiny chance that that revert will be announced at Blizzcon. But as it stands I haven’t even played as her in weeks except in random hero game modes where I’m forced to.

Yeah she’s been changed almost every patch since then. She’s being looked at, it’s just the devs are trying to find her balanced winrate, which unfortunately for you has been nerfing her until now, where she is a little subpar. She needs 5 more hps, that’s it. EZ clapper.

I think the major argument is that mercy is FINALLY balanced, and she’s been drawing attention away from other heroes because mercy mains keep pressuring the devs, when they could be focusing on others.

That’s not what I meant. If the devs want to fix other heroes, they’re free to do so. No-one is stopping them from doing that.

Bugs can be hard to fix.

They’re both pretty annoying to play as, but everyone loves to say that we shouldn’t balance around how fun the hero is to play. :woman_shrugging:

She just needs buffs at the moment. And, she’s in a better spot overall.

Because the meta changes?

That’s subjective.

They’re fixing Roadhog.

They’ve done some changes to them both, and they’ll probably do more.

I’ve literally never said this.

You may as well have said it. All of the Mercy posters are literally playing the squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease game.

That is, spamming the forums and hoping to jump the queue for a rework. It’s toxic and tiresome.

The real solution is to delete Mercy. I won’t spam it, but she doesn’t belong in an FPS.

It’s toxic and tiresome.

The real solution is to delete Mercy.

I…Im not sure that im the only one seeing the irony here?

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