There’s quite a few suggestions that don’t involve mass Resurrect. Did you even go through all of them?
But how many of them don’t involve more than 1 rez, and aren’t EeveeA’s idea?
i didnt but i did most of them
5 none Resurrect rework suggestions. The rest are suggestions for entirely new abilities. The first bunch are mass resurrect rework suggestions though.
Will admit, haven’t read through that post specializing in those ideas. Good work then.
There’s also a suggestion Titanium’s new post that you may like . Here’s the link: Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy’s Current State
Before we continue, let me just say that this has been one of the most enjoyable debates I’ve gotten into on this forums for quite a while. So thank you for that.
You are right… nailing down exactly what is engaging is not easy at all. That’s why Devs do a certain amount of throw things they think are interesting at the wall and see what sticks. Funnily enough your earlier statement perfectly illustrates that. I don’t mind Archwing and I actually quite enjoy Titania who’s 4th ability bring Archwing mechanics into normal missions.
Honestly… I personally think the line should be… “Is it reasonably balanced? Does it have enough counter play for how strong it is? Does it fit with everything else that hero is supposed to be good at?” If yes… Go for it. I also agree that they shouldn’t have done most of those reworks. RiP Ember. But one thing they got rid of I am 100% behind. That being removing Trinity’s ability to nuke the map via self damage with the Sancti Castanas and link. The Trinity is the premiere support frame. Nuking all the dudes shouldn’t be part of her strengths. Similarly I’m not too torn up about the (near) removal of Attack Helicopter Mercy.
Yeah… OW is kind of a mess. Honestly in all my time gaming, I’ve never seen a PvP game that didn’t just give everyone the same mobility handle it well. Also yes, the support category is kind of a mess. I don’t know how to fix all of it, but I do think somehow getting Resurrect off of a basic ability will help… because having it there kind of adds a “core job” that people expect the support to do… but only one hero can do it.
Yeah… Blizzard has dug themselves a massive hole. I don’t know how or if they’ll manage to dig themselves out. Thankfully I’m not the one who has to do it.
No-one is down playing the importance of other things that need fixing. Along with the things you mentioned you should add your spelling. Also if resurrect is unfun, then dragon blade and all other ultimates and guns should be removed as thy are “unfun to play against”. Please stop using this terrible argument. Many people want resurrect back, with certain changes, like LOS a Cast time and other things. Just because someone resurrected your “epic 2 kill dragon blade in a Graviton surge” does not mean it should be removed. Your only argument is “it’s op and unfun” They can literally add counterplay with a small cast time and certain changes.
thats the thing a genji ult take skill unlike mass rezz.
(if a genji kills me w/ a “cool” blade ill give him that)
even a grav blade take 2 ults.
and mercy can just fly in and make 3 ults useless if that fun for u idk what is fun anymore
Or if it is too much… and it kinda is… at least read this part of it.
Dear OP (right, I might be banned for saying a name)
Your post sucks, please read this as punishment and educate yourself.
Where are the forum mods to take these types of posts down. Flagging this one.
lmao thats false reporting/flagging u cant do it u will get banned
I just have one question. What part of 11 nerfs in a row screams “Mercy is fine right now” to you? I’m genuinely curious.
ok u might not like my post i get it u dont need to get triggered b/c i talk about mercy and its aint that good
(let me guess u r the "spam mercy revert till it gets added dont u?)
i guess im the problem then just saying what i think is a problem, but spaming is ok i guess
i think people suggest a revert cause it would be the “easiest fix” to her at this point…her entire concept is that she’s the only “pure” or “true” healer…she could heal OR dmg boost, not both at the same time [like Zen for example…who heals less but has more dmg and gives 1 target dmg boost to the entire team]
so that was compensated by a powerful ult…
if they wanted to prevent the annoyance of hide and res, they could have just removed invincibility, gave her reduced dmg taken during her ult…give her some small cast time and you could CC her out of it and done…[in addition to either/or LoS requirement and smaller range or something, idk]
balancing valk + E res is way harder [probably impossible for E res since ya know, it’s an ult ability lmao] but they’re being either stubborn or just dense idk…so, basically that’s why i think people keep whining about bringing mass res back…
i mean, they can literally nerf her into the ground but she will still be the only healer you can be useful with even if you just got the game…and she will have res every 30s whoops…
This so much. Forums are pretty much the only place where I see people crying about the revert
ok she got nerfed thats what make a “OP” hero balanced
Okay, but when she turns out to still be OP when the dust settles, is she balanced then, or will she again need another nerf? People have cried “she’s balanced now!” after every nerf she’s received, and every time it’s been proven to not be the case. Why do you think this time will be any different?