i want them to at least try, they know that most mercy players aren’t satisfied with her right now and we have a WHOLE ptr.
just test some changes there and if they are too broken take them back.
the OW community would be so much friendlier and better overall if blizzard would throw some changes on the ptr more often to show that they are TRYING to listen
What would you like them to try that isn’t mass rez.
Without changing how her beam works which most mercy players love what could we do to make her scale more with player skill?
Sigh… I know I shouldn’t do this, but let’s go…
“No plans to revert” refers to a very specific moment. So, once more, “We bring never add Deathmatch to Overwatch” and “Never say never” fit at perfection here. In fact, they said no reverts, but they reverted her rez back to stationary. They reverted her ult voice line, even tough if doesn’t make sense with valk. They reverted her overall healing. That statement is too old at this point to be considered a realistic proof. Yes, they had no intentions to revert her, which is interesting because they were trying to keep the community calmed with statements like “if we mess her too much, we’ll bring her back”. That was the moment when they admitted a huge lie (without doing so).
Anyway, nope, the supports weren’t weak, but they buffed them all, excepting Mercy who was butchered with more and more changes and nerfs than any other character in its whole history, something that even Blizz had to admit later. Not saying she didn’t need those changes, anyway. She was an op monster in her original valk’s form.
The??? There were 10-11 of them you know? Yes, some of the people writing there were very active, but there were people from all ranks and types writing there. Even Vale wrote there complaining. Mentally disabled people wrote there complaining too. People with problems with the new beams and their eyes wrote there too. Everybody was ignored. Megathreads were nothing but a dumpster for criticism to die.
Just for your information, one of the most popular changes people are commenting is a possible new R (PC key) ability. I don’t know but the only things I see they are going to achieve with that will be:
1- Won’t fix the problem, since her issue is not on her balance, but on her design, just bad and unhealthy. Maybe op, maybe not. Who knows.
2- Every single character’s playerbase will want another R ability, messing the whole game.
I’d love them to start using the PTR as what it is: a place where you can try different things and check if you can bring them to the game or not. Not just an introductory realm for incomming changes. Just doing that would be a giant step in the right direction.
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increase her heals to at least 55 hps, that was way too harsh of a nerf
make valk either single beam with 75-80 hps and 45% damage boost
or
have chain beams with the primary target getting the most heals and everybody else receiving 50%, same for damage boost
just some things to increase critical thinking with mercy, but not making her too hard for newer players
I am done talking with you. I will ignore you until you use proof instead of stories
I’m glad you proved you don’t want any conversation nor nothing. Yes, I’m done talking with you. Next time, bring real arguments and back up. I was trying to be civile, but if you want to keep being toxic, that’s your problem, kid.
I have all my stuff is backed up with facts, stats and quotes waiting on your now.
Your invalid claims are not arguments
Mass rez resulted in unwanted behavior in the game, Valkyrie doesnt
Valkyrie is one of the most powerful ults in the game,cand arguably the very most versatile one
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how am i going to pack up proposed changes with quotes??? i explained WHY they were needed and you simply just want YOUR argument to be the only argument instead of listening to other opinions
Tbh, that’s not true. Valk can be easily ignored and rendered into useless. It’s a jack of all trades, master of none. Close to irrelevant indeed. Also, E rez has resulted in unwanted behavior in the game too, but this time, mandatory.
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We, the people that liked Mercy 1.0 (not Invulnerability during Rez Mercy), just want her viable again. She may be balanced, but is rather boring now a days. People claim that “Fun is subjective” yet Mercy was changed because streamers and Pros said that “Mercy('s Mass Rez) is un-fun to play against.” We point out that current Mercy is a Revert to pre-release PTR Mercy abilities that were removed/changed because they were not working well in pre-release PTR, yet they slapped them on her an we had months of OP Mercy even though they were warned in PTR board that Mercy would be OP. Pros (an apparently you) don’t like Lock-On beams, which Mercy has and really cannot get rid of them unless you want to make her Healing AOE like Lucio, or aim intensive like Ana, both of which would not flow with Mercy at all. I didn’t care in in Pre Release free weekend through Season 3 that Mercy was F-tier, due to it being Lucio (speed boost) and Zenyatta (DPS healer with discord) territory till Ana (Sniper healer with burst healing) came out. Nor that Mercy died if she was able to pull a clutch Rez and save the game. Heck, I didn’t mind Mercy being a “Throw Pick” and being cursed if I played her, because 1 game saving Tempo Rez or even a ‘Huge Rez’ that saved the match proved those people wrong. I didn’t listen to players who, like one streamer in particular, screaming at me to go Hide once I have Rez. I never played “Hide and Rez”, many people didn’t, but is SURE seems like Mercy players are being punished for that and being Over Powered after the Rework, neither were Mercy’s fault. Bad SR exploit, that helped some people climb, and the Rework itself were to blame for the problems, NOT the people who played Mercy (a lot fewer now since so many have left the game due to Rework and Nerfs).
Successful Rework my foot, it it takes 17 Nerfs (and counting) to ‘Balance’ a Hero, it would have probably been better if they HAD Reverted Mercy and made some changes to her then.
woah now! i would say valk is good but i wouldn’t say it’s the most powerful ultimate in the game
That wasn’t for you, i quoted the wrong person on that one my bad.
Yeah, maybe they could try 55 healing.
Why do you feel single target healing over AoE healing would be more fun?? or is it just better to have better healing for tanks
valk being multitarget isn’t mercy.
mercy is a single target healer and having her ult dumbed down was prob one of the worst decisions the devs made, aside from putting a very powerful ultimate on e
Yeah, I think the reason Mercy got the AOE is to allow her to do more than just heal for a while.
She can power heal the team then → AoE Damage or even shoot her gun for a while know she can heal everyone back up.
But I understand most mercy players just want to heal
i get what they were going for, but the overall “skill floor” of mercy is learning to correctly beam juggle, valk negates all of that
See no one cares about this only a few people. once the one person that cares stops posting RIP thread
These threads are sustain by a small group of people fighting each other
We are NOT having this fight again, because I refuse to be bated by it. You have your beliefs, which are not supported by facts (or you would have given them out on every post you have pulled this on).
Mass Rez is gone, I know this and hate it with a purple passion. If you like current Nerfecy (Nerfed Mercy), fine. Many people, as the 9 Mega Threads, at least 1 PTR thread, and innumerable other Mercy threads prove, don’t like current Mercy. Many have come on the forum and reported that due to the Rework and subsequent Nerfs left the game for good, that is bad and you know it.
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Exactly, that’s one of the things that bugs me about valk. Mercy’s definition was supposed to be:
Strong but single target mobile consistent main support focused on healing/mobility
Currently, she is hybrid target because she has aoe healing, so she doesn’t need to prioritize while in valk. However, she is weaker now as a support in mid game. She is not entirely mobile because of her E rez. Her focus… now rez is even more important than before, together with going battle Mercy during valk (the most enjoyable part of current Mercy).
The point is that this entire rework has messed her whole identity. She is not herself anymore.
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Factually, the unwanted behavior in question was removed from the game when mass rez was (thankfully) removed from the game