Mercy 50hps Flying 60hps not Flying

hahaha So you are a threat the that should be seeked out! Hmm I wonder why?

Seeked? You literally have neon sign on you.

And it’s not because you are threat - it’s just too easy kill to pass. Easier kill would be only on AFK player.

I actually have an improved version over here, they does the same thing, but doesn’t limit Mercy’s mobility.

✅ Mercy, 60hps on ground teammates

Yeah but arguably Tempo res was too much and it was an issue with Damage Players not killing us as they should be doing, the longer they leave up alive, the more Res we can pull off during a fight and with 60 HPS we could keep things up until Ultimates start flying.

I think while the idea is interesting it would be too problematic for mercy players. Why should we get punished for utilising good positional abilities of her kit? Why should we be punished for super jumping, bunny hopping, staying airborne for survivability?

I think just because mercy synergises well with certain heroes in team comp does not mean you have to scale her down because she works so well with pharra and echo. She is still an individual character and does deserved to be looked as such rather “overpowered” in good team synergies.

I actually have an improved version over here, they does the same thing, but doesn’t limit Mercy’s mobility.

:white_check_mark: Mercy, 60hps on ground teammates

But nobody seems to be responding to that one.

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I personally believe that players of a hero are all individuals, notwithstanding of what role they play, be it support, damage, or tank. Ergo, I believe that players only account for their own opinions, are not “cores” of any “group/ tribe/faction/belief/creed/ or identification”, and do not stand for the opinions of others.

I also completely disagree with the, yet again, language being used and the tribalistic approach towards the blanketing of statements against both Mercy fans, and Damage fans, and see it as not a way of unifying the community or respecting people, but dividing them.

this is a good post op

Which is punishing Mercy players for using her mobility. The moment I hit GA I’m healing for 50HP/s, until ability is over. This change only buffs Mercy players who don’t use GA much, it will also cement her into just being a 100% pocket.

NO.

How about this. All healing is reduced on characters while they are not on the ground:

DVA Boosting, Sigma using ult, Winston rocket pack jumping, Hammond swining, Pharah in flight, whatever it is that the new character will do, Junkrat while grenading himself into the air, Lucio while on walls, Widow while grappling, Genji while double jumping, etc.

Mercy has been nerfed enough. She’s already an almost worthless character. Stop blaming her on your inability to click Pharah on the forehead.

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Its a net buff though? :no_mouth:

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I’ll be blunt: I don’t care what other faceless people on the internet think of me or “us”. I’m going to advocate for what I think is right, and nobody’s negative opinion of me or “us” is going to stop me.

Respect is a two-way street. I will give my respect to the people I speak to until they prove they are not worth my respect because they are not willing to reciprocate.

This is a fat lie you pulled out of your six. None of “us” labeled you as a “traitor” for disagreeing. You are entitled to your opinion of Mercy, just as we are. Disagreement is not belligerence. Know the difference.

If “we” truly saw you as a “traitor” for disagreeing, then you wouldn’t still be in my Discord server. Nobody has earned the honor of being called a “traitor”, and I’m honestly not sure what they would have to do to earn that title; what I do know is that anybody who does manage to earn it will be banned from the server in an instant.

Taking criticism has never been a problem for me. I observe it and consider it, but criticism does not entitle you or anyone to action on my part. You said the Pacify proposal in my megapost would be overpowered; I and many others who collaborated on the proposal disagreed and chose not to change it. From that, you constructed this whole “Mercy cult” delusion, when in reality you would have left the Discord server long ago if that’s the way you really felt. If you took my inaction from your criticism personally, that’s your own fault.

There are… a lot of things wrong with this assertion.

First, there’s the presumption that all of “us” will defense every “pro-Mercy idea” and attack every “anti-Mercy” idea. Just a few days ago, I reviewed a rework proposal from another Mercy main in my Discord server and told them that their idea would “singlehandedly break the game” as written. As for the “anti-Mercy” ideas, I’m… honestly not sure what that would include at this point, other than leaving her as she is. Even then, that’s subjective because believe it or not, some people in my Discord server are okay with her current state.

Second, none of this is being orchestrated by me. None of “our” forum activities, other than the rework proposal in my megapost and another certain event that led to the “Mercy Ice Cream Movement”, were collaborative efforts led by myself, and the latter of the two was just for kicks and giggles.

People hated the Mercy rework long before I even created my Discord server. I didn’t gather a group of people and say “We’re all going to complain about the rework”, there were already a bunch of people complaining about the rework and someone said “Hey, wanna make a Discord server?”. If I didn’t gather a bunch of people together, then we would all be complaining independently from each other.

There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Mercy Hive Mind.

There is no damage that cannot be healed, unless you are referring to the players that left because of the rework. Maybe they’re gone for good, but the developers can always change Mercy into a to a better state to satisfy the remaining Mercy players.

This sounds like projection. You’re the one calling us “cultists” for not taking your word as gospel just because you claim to have some experience in game development.

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It would keep her from being a stronger pocket for Pharah or Echo.

Who said she was pocketing the Pharah or Echo?

You don’t seriously believe that this isn’t going to be an issue with increased healing, do you?
It’s a problem that must be addressed if her healing is to be increased. She has very strong synergy with those heroes.

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The buff is still a stupid idea

This thread currently seems to have some better ideas for Mercy buffs anyway, I’ve already jumped ship :^)

The devs have solid numbers, logic and a very clear view of what would happen if Mercy had Mass Ress/60hps again. Let me all remind you that Moira even got her healing nerfed and Mercy is the MOST consistent healer. Increasing her numbers under ANY circumstance would lead to her being on the top again, while also being the EASIEST healer to pick up with the EASIEST value per skill invested.

Im not a Dev ofc but I suspect those 2 things, Mass Ress and 60hps is a HARD NOPE from them. Good luck though.

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Thats precisely the problem, we got so agressive with each other that it lead the community to label or view us that way. We were no longer there to negotiate nor to have a debate or two way conversation about it.

Your very reply is still the same as what it was 2 years ago, you DON’T care about Overwatch, you care only about Mercy and only for Mercy.

In the end what happened? Did any of your idea’s get implemented? The very last discussion I had with members of the group that was still proactively engaged in the thread started to talk about Heal Rates, why the other supports weren’t pick and the strengths and weakness, I took the realisitic approach rather than induldge in fantasy and pushing for ridiculous ideas and snapping at anyone who disagreed.

In the end 50HPS happen and all the buff to supports occured and as I was saying at the time, it’s clear that Blizzard was monitoring your Megathread, they don’t care about the suggestions we gave, most of them were adapted for the other heroes that came out… anything that can be used to realistically used to curb Mercy or aligns with their objective, they will take and use.

That is why I gave up on the whole thing and I’ll gladly take the blame for suggesting the nerf to Mercy’s healing as I brought up that discussion not only in your thread but other threads as well. I took an objective view, considered what Blizzard’s goals were for Mercy and gave an objective view on the issue.

They’re looking for Super Mercy or a Rework Mercy they needed to address her Pick Rate and reverse the damage dealt by 2.0 and that is why they most likely saw the Support comments on how Mercy was technically stronger than all the other supports at the time and curbed her.

Right now, what could change things for Mercy and offer an oppotunity was a mild QoL improvement is the Hero Pool system, I’ve just read the announcement… they’re going to lock 1 tank, 2 Damage and 1 Support base on Pick rates which will induce talks about Mercy’s Healing Rate and discussions on Ana and Moira and because they are high, they are going to be next on the chopping block (sooner or later) but all of this will have to come after Echo has made her impact.

Precisely… anyone with common sense also knows how much of a pain it is to kill Pharah even with 50HPS most of our Damage Community can’t even pop the bullet and kill Pharah and if they kill Pharah first, Mercy res her and Mercy is just building up an ult… kill Mercy first and problem is solved, but no… let’s ignore the golden angel in the sky.