Dreadlocks were first invented in India and Egypt.
So blacks are stealing from Asian origins.
SHAME!
Dreadlocks were first invented in India and Egypt.
So blacks are stealing from Asian origins.
SHAME!
Egypt = Asia
Zarya yes
Mei existed before that.
And we all know how Zarya came to be XD
Egypt arn’t blacks. they are brown.
Egypt also isn’t in Asia
Girl…in my “all white” country this hairstyle was a “must wear” hit during summer for several years. Cultural or not - you don´t own it and basicly anyone can wear on their head what they want.
Do you know how many black women are ironing their hair to achieve smooth hair of “other” cultures/races? And it´s ok! Please, don´t be so restrictive about it. It´s 21. century and OW heroes are even further from future.
…no, they don’t.
If I read Harry Potter before it blew up, does that mean that only I am a true fan of the series, because I was there first, and a few kids made fun of me for reading it?
No, everyone’s a fan, regardless of when they pick up a book.
Same thing applies here.
You do know that “cisgender straight boys” who wear effeminate clothing get bashed by every conservative media outlet out there, right…? Like, outlets like Ben Shapiro or PragerU drop everything to show how wrong it is for a man to be wearing a skirt.
To me, this just sounds like you’re saying that cisgender straight men don’t deserve to wear skirts, because “they didn’t earn it,” which is a ridiculous thought process. The fact that you very quickly dismissed this user, then came back with a sympathetic story, looks like you’re just doing this to get people on your side through empathy alone.
It just sounds like you’re teaching people that people aren’t allowed to be their authentic selves if they haven’t received any discrimination for it. That’s kinda ridiculous.
…I kind of question that if after all that this is still your response. Like it has no relation to what I said? Nobody made this argument???
Person A: Dogs are an endagered species!!!
Person B: What? No. They aren’t. I have a pet dog. It’s perfectly safe. There is not a bunch of dogs kidnappers running around. Did you know they found the guys who stole Gaga’s dogs.
Person C: Okay, look. You’re right, dogs aren’t endangered. But there are endangered animals. Endangered animal species are animals that may soon become extinct. It’s not really about kidnapping at all. It can be related to it. But it’s more about what’s happening at a species level than an individual one.
Person B: So you think dogs are endangered??!?!?
Person C: No…
Person B: Then what’s with all that endangered talk
Person C: I am not saying their endangered but there’s a broader animal issue at play here
Person B: Well I’m glad you think that. Because all this dog kidnapping talk is ridiculous.
Person C:
Person D: I think Person C wasn’t trying to talk about individual animals being in danger, but talk about endangered animals more broadly.
Person B: Got it. You’re so right. I get it now. Dog kidnapping isn’t a big thing!
Person E: Person C wants to steal our dogs!!!
… What?
Do me a favour and drop the fantasy people named after letters of the alphabet debating breeds of dogs.
So, your questioning my understanding of racism, right? Please, explain. I’m curious.
Sorry, I’m doing this on a phone so I don’t wanna have to try and decode your dog analogy. From what I can tell, you think I have a poor grasp on what racism is? Explain, because I actually find racism to be a pretty simplistic subject. I mean, it’s essentially skin deep adaptations to deal with environmental differences across the planet. The information to have darker skin is contained in everyone’s DNA, its just certain races have certain attributes active and as the world has become smaller in a relatively short period of time thanks to things like the airplane all these races have suddenly been thrust together and so people are having a hard time adjusting to it because they put too much importance on skin deep differences.
How am I doing? Do I understand racism or am I an ignorant swine?
I’m questioning whether you get what was being said to you, not your understanding of racism. Because your response made it feel like the last several posts went in one ear and out the other.
I used that as example so you’d see how irritating that is to keep bringing it back to that.
Person B isn’t wrong when they say that “Dogs aren’t an endagered species” and that “Dog Napping hasn’t put the Dog kingdom in danger.” It doesn’t mean they are demonstrating understanding of what person B or D were trying to say.
Well I wasn’t before I saw this edit…but racism is more complicated than that.
Again, I don’t really get what you’re trying to say. That I’m not understanding what’s being said? That I’m ignoring something? What have I ignored?
Well, racism is taking exception to someone because of their race, which amounts to a bunch of skin deep adaptations being active, right?
When I say it’s simple, I mean because it can essentially be boiled down to that, which highlights how dumb it is. It’s not half as special as people seem to think it is.
While that’s true on an individual level, racism is also (and more importantly) was a system of rules (both real laws and culturally enforced) designed to put one race in power over the other, and ensuring cultural superiority.
So things like limiting access to education, and economic mobility, laws surrounding what people could and could not due, etc. When it became illegal to make these laws explicitly about that, they then became things tailored to have a disproportionate impact on communities of color.
For example, throwing people out of school for having corn rows during a time period when the vast majority of white people would never wear them doesn’t explicitly state that black kids should be hassled to diminish their access to education. But that was one of the goals of that policies creation, to police and punish kids of color.
Of course many schools don’t want to do that now. But, they still enforce the rule because it was in place in their system decades ago. So the legacy of that is still effecting kids today (and schools are slowly updating their uniform policies to remove it).
So the individual school board or principal don’t believe they are superior due to their skin color. But they are still unfairly punishing black students for being black. Not because of individual racism, but because of systematic racism that would need to be brought to their attention so that they could address it.
There’s all kinds of these kinds of remnants of old mindsets that do NOT require any individual person to be racist but still benefit or get hurt by racism.
This was the kind of thing that the opening post was trying to move the conversation towards, more thoughtful analysis of the world at large. Which is why it becomes frustrating to having to keep confirming that cornrows aren’t a part of that. Because it’s like the part that’s most important isn’t being heard.
I hope that helps understand a bit.
Yes, I hate racism and condemn all the atrocities of the past and the present, but there’s only so many ways I can say that. My intention was to point out that in our fury against racism we shouldn’t be racist, and the having a problem with Mei having corn rows is racism too.
The problem was that the opening poster contradicted herself somewhat and maybe didn’t phrase things the way they intended and that led to confusion, because again… I feel like she was maybe falling into the trap of being racist herself, as I can highlight with the comment about white people, which we can chaulk up to emotions.
Anyway, I wanna leave it there coss I’m deeper into this rabbit hole than I really intended to go. There’s only so many ways I can say racism is bad, and even worse than that, it’s illogical.
This is honestly like half the reason I’ve stopped using the forums recently.
I sorta figured out that a good portion of this place is just bigots. Seriously search any of these usernames or reddit/twitter and it takes not even 5 minutes to find posts on some of the most disgusting subreddits I’ve ever seen.
It’s actually kinda gross. I always forget that videogames have a large cis, straight, white demographic which basically always includes a large amount of homophobic, racist, ETC people.
Maybe not a “racist” argument, but definitely ignorant and absolutely not something I’d expect to read from someone who is apparently educated enough on topic to include it in her title and dismiss someone else’s opinion as not being educated enough.
And since she’s not black the hair is look down upon? What? Why would we looks down on her hair jsut because she not black? In that same line of thought, wouldn’t that make the people getting offended by her hair the racist one because they are the one “looking down on it.”
Culturally appropriate meaning seem to have been twist all for the benefit of people who are looking for reason to be offend. You can still wear the fashion and do things outside of your culture, as long as you’re doing it with respect to the culture itself. That’s totally fine.
The cornrows is a hairstyle that have been popularize, evolve, and mainstream in modern era, that doesn’t mean it disrepected its origin by any mean. It just means people from other culture appreciate the hairstyle and want to try it out for themselve.
From what I gather, the cornrows has also become a part of the MMA culture which is what Mei skin represent anyway.
FYI I’m not white.
Ill wear my hair whichever way i like, i don’t really care where the “style” comes from
I just choose to have the “default npc” haircut
So far I’ve seen the mma braids idea as the reason behind it, but never something against black people. It’s more some people take the mma background away from it.
I think you misinterpreted the point.
The point isn’t that you, specifically, would look down upon Mei, specifically, for having the hairstyle. The point is that society in general has a bad habit of disrespecting people who wear their heads in cornrows.
The disrespect is especially bad for black people, because wearing cornrows is seen as being “ghetto” or unintelligent. However, the disrespect can also occur to people of other ethnicities as well, such as a white woman who wears it and people criticize her for trying to “act black”.
However, at the exact same time, the same society will take these trends or fashions when a marketable celebrity (such as a Kardashian) does it and try to pretend like it’s something new and innovative, thus profiting off of things that were basically denied to the culture that originated it.
The OP, however, is also saying that Mei’s specific example is rather complicated and that it’s not inherently racist. There’s nuance there that can get massively confused with the greater politics.