I think the fan the hammer is too much of a sure thing when combined with FB, and feels like a cheap kill that has unfortunately defined McCree for many people.
HE can beat he has a weaker ultimate and bad survivability. Mei dominates close range also she can dominate long range even vs widow and she has insane survivability.
Reaper dominated close range but has one of the best survival cooldowns in the game.
Mcree is OK in short range and good in midrange but lacks survivability and has one of the worst dps ultimates in the game
Tracer dominates short range in ny opinion. So does Reaper.
I love both mcree & pharah and they are both perfectly fine.
You know why? Because Mcree is imo a hard counter to Pharah and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Overwatch is a game of counters. So in that case, you should switch.
bruh pharah is so far from fine lol, she’s literally the only hero that’s basically non-viable at this point
how is she non-viable when I play her all the time when they are not countering me lol
Calling him a hard counter is essentially saying he’s OP, but then you say it’s cool that he’s OP because he is and there’s nothing wrong with that. Truly inspired.
I like these posts cause It is really funny to watch Mccree players trying to defend the hero while the numbers are talking by themselves. It is not even worth trying to use other arguments.
I see some people use the argument that he’s been bad for so long, as if it it makes it okay that he’s ridiculously strong now.
I’m personally glad he’s becoming the topic now and is becoming meta. His power level is finally being exposed.
His power level is on par with Sombra’s, lul. Exposing it basically does nothing as the harshest nerf he will get is a revert. Ooh, so scary.
A revert is all he needs.
That, and flashbang should just be revisited entirely so it’s actually consistent. That trash ability misses when you’re right next to him somehow, and sometimes hits when you’re in Narnia. It works for and against him inconsistently and it’s awkward.
Word. That would be the dream. I miss his old fire rate so much and hate how consistently inconsistent flash is.
Personally I do hate McCree for his easy stun + kill but that is pretty much expected at this point.
His ult on the other hand is kind of annoying me. Unless you have a shield blocking you it can kill you as a squishy very fast, sometimes before you can find a place to hide. Overall I don’t really see him as a problem but that stun and ult are just annoying (still far more bearable than Doomfist and his 12 CCs)
You can say he needs a rework, but according to Mccrees own performance he in fact needs to stay as is, or be buffed (especially if other terrible DPS does come back with buffs, like Hanzo and others). Mccree is one of the least winning characters in the game and by far the least winning (negative winrate) Meta hero. He is everything but overpowered, he is well liked, fits the FPS genre players and is consistent, which means players use him, the same as they always have even in his pre buff state. He has never been the least played DPS ever and not really even close, despite being one of the worst DPS throughout all points in time of the game´s history.
Change his bullet damage to 60, both in regular shots and fan the hammer. BAM! Fixed.
…a hero… countering another hero… isn’t op… it’s a basic fundamental of balance…
Depends on wether or not you play at an elo where people hit shots. Pharah has a limit to just how much she can do unless you’re making a youtube montage where a TTS voice reads this sentence then proves me wrong with a bunch of nutty pharah plays.
Huh… That is a really interesting suggestion. I wish we could try it on the experimental.
He said McCree is a hard counter and then explained it by saying if McCree is being played then the Pharah player should switch.
If that’s the case then McCree is not balanced at all, and it wasn’t how the matchup played out prior to the buff to McCree’s fire rate.
Lmao it was amusing how you put all kinds of words in my mouth that i never said LOL
Mcree is not OP, never said that.
But let me repeat myself cause you can’t read it properly the first time lol
Mcree IS a hard counter to Pharah.
Mcree counters Pharah all day, and there nothing wrong with that.
More inspiration for you lol
Absolutely not. That would ruin mcree altogether. It would take 4 body shots to kill, that’s not including falloff from anything but close range. Making mcree gutter trash. It would be laughable.