bruh I just wish they tried tweaking mass rez to give it some counterplay (cast time, line of sight, or other vulnerabilities) before removing it completely because I kinda miss it and I cannot stand rez on E or as I like to call it. The Magic Eraser™
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Mercy ult reverses kills, which gives the enemy less value, which in turn gives you more value.
Every hero “earns” their ultimate.
Because an easy hero is going to be a lot better in low ranks than high ranks, the value she gets is a lot for a low rank, but in high ranks they are good enough to get the same/more value out of heroes than out of mercy.
The biggest issue in this game is the large disparity between how powerful heroes are in certain ranks due to their skill floors/skill ceilings, you have to look at all skill levels when balancing the hero, not just one of them.
Well right now, the universally-agreed-upon most-skill-intensive support Ana is picked more than Mercy in every rank all the way down to Silver. The rank difference in the perception of Mercy’s value to a team was certainly there before her rework, but it doesn’t seem to be there anymore given where we are now.
Mercy is viewed as an inferior pick across the board at all ranks except, apparently, Bronze.
almost the entire roster can remove someone from the field and everyone can drop his drone fairly fast…
Correct, but this is about mass rez balance, which was bad because it was really good in some ranks and then really bad in others.
That could have been fixed by making small changes to the ability’s mechanics or other aspects of Mercy’s gameplay, such as giving her an E ability but taking away the invulnerability during Resurrect. Her ultimate did not need to be completely removed from the game to solve the problem.
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You are not necessarily wrong, removing her ultimate was a solution. Maybe not the best solution, but still a solution.
As the saying goes, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
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By that logic we should remove rein’s charge and indeed a great many other abilities from the game. You will never stop certain people from playing badly.
If you feel the temptation to hide and rez rather than spend the small amount of effort to stop them dying that says a lot about you. It does not say anything about Mercy
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You still need a kill to bait it out.
For lamp you dont.
You make it sound like it’s very hard to get one kill. Could also be fixed by adding burst heal to rez for alive teammates.
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Yeah you won the fight but remember the mercy was hiding so it was 6v5. Let’s say the whole team wipe took 15 seconds, you had to deal 900 less damage considering Mercy’s healing.
I don’t want mass rez back or anything changed on Mercy right now but it’s a point to be considered.
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I liked your post even though I disagree with your opinion that Mercy shouldn’t be changed. It’s refreshing to see someone who disagrees but who is also willing to see the reason in someone else’s argument.
I do think it’s important for Blizzard to consider people who don’t want change while trying to move forward… yet I struggle, perhaps ironically, to sympathize with the sentiment myself. I was once a person who didn’t want Mercy changed. I still feel to this day as if something was taken away from me when the Mercy rework happened, and I want it back… and so now I am a person who wants Mercy changed.
I don’t expect any miracles, but if you can imagine any way to please both the people who like current Mercy and the people who preferred old pre-rework Mercy I’d be happy to hear your insights.
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Mass res was so broken that Mercy was seen as a throw pick in all but the very last season in which she had the ability. So overpowered!
/s, obviously… because there’s always someone.
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I was in Masters before the Mercy rework and have remained there while playing a wide pool of heroes among all three roles. You can consider me a primary source. I recall being told countless times on the hero select screen, before the game even started, to switch off Mercy because she was a trash hero. I know from discussion with others on the old forums (which have since been archived) as well as in other mediums that I was not alone in that experience.
In addition to my anecdotal evidence, you will find if you look back that Mercy’s pick rate in tournament play was largely non-existent before her rework. She only made a slight showing with mass res just before the end, after she had received a long list of buffs pre-rework in the effort to make her an actually competitive hero. There’s a very good reason they had to buff the crap out of her to get her to that point.
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Mass rez was an embarrassment for the game. Don’t be ridiculous.
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It really wasn’t. For mass rez, there was literally no counter play besides “just kill her 4Head lol” or hack her before she presses q
With immortality field, Hanzo can insta kill it, your team can focus it, you can cc them out/above with someone like DF, Hammond or Lucio. Hack it. You can also bait it out because it is on A 20 SECOND CD
20 SECONDS
Oh yeah, also, nano blade insta kills it, and if theres multiple people in it, they kinda feed you kills with that.
Okay, BUT hacking that thing is SO fun to have everyone turn around with fear in their eyes as I uzi them down and teleport away as if nothing happened.
no they reworked/buffed her because pros kept complaining about how broken mass rezz is in an FPS game why do u think they removed it in the first place? if it was so underwhelming or a throw pick why did she get reworked in the first place? because it was broken nothing else. no1 said anything about mercy being a throw pick ever stop trying dude she was the go to healer. after looking up on google and several old forum posts mercy 1.0 pickrates were above average while lucio remained rank 1. still doesnt mean she didnt get picked and when she didnt maybe that means people didnt want to play her because of her boring gameplay no? people bought this game knowing its an FPS and not a hold mouse 1 and heal bot like u did on mercy did this ever come to ur mind? why does ana have such a high pickrate in gm back then even when she was also considered a throw pick? because people like heros that take skill and mercy and mass rez definitely dont fit into that.
btw here is an old thread about mercy pickrates with old mass rez. enjoy ur “throw pick” statistics = https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/72q6le/mercy_pickrate/
That thread is dated September 27th, 2017. Mercy’s rework was September 19th.
Stop lying and get out. Not necessarily in that order.
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