don’t have much trouble playing Orisa against those mentioned heroes, but Dva is really bad… seriously, what the hell does she have in her kit to reduce damage or condemn opponents? She has nothing.
As I said…
I feel completely nullified playing Dva against these heroes, while I don’t see much problem in dealing with other tanks in various situations that are horrible with Dva.
It’s difficult to want to play with a character that you like and be completely nullified by some characters, unlike other tanks where you can stay with them for the entire match and still do something.
If developers played this game, they would see how frustrating it is, the same thing applies to Brigitte. If all tanks had counters like Dva, which makes them completely useless, I honestly wouldn’t say anything, but that’s not what happens.
It’s much easier for me to be a one-trick of other tanks than with D.Va. Only God knows how much toxicity I’ve received playing with her compared to other tanks.
I would just reduce the crit damage she takes, that seems a simple solution to a major problem. They can do that with some of the other heroes too, and is a better solution than always adjusting damage/falloff range/health, and all that other crap.
Hog’s hitbox is huge so not sure what you are suggesting? Sure, JQ’s is smaller but beams are so much easier to aim than non-beams. It’s pretty easy to track a JQ with a beam. Not going to do much less damage to her than DVa, and going to do more to hog.
I agree and made a similar post. Dva is the only tank with so many direct counters in the game. But my suggested fix was too allow matrix to simply allow for a 50% dmg reduction to lazers. So zar and sym ect could still play well into a dva but at least d.va had some ability to also play back into them without throwing
But the thing is hog & jq have a self heal (sustainability). All tanks have some form of shield, sustain, mitigation or self heal VS ALL damage in game except DVA. Ball has his armor from rolling around. Hogs heal. Orisas gold skin and twirl thing, doom has mitigation block. And there are bubbles shields ect ect. Dva has no option but to run from beam… Then people say… she has mobility… Well so does doom so does ball so does winston. And do it without the lazer weakness and some with better range. Dva cant even reliably out range a lazer with her spread on primary fire and longer rocket cds
Dva is only tank with a absolute HARD counter in all roles that is pretty much a required swap wheras all other tanks can pretty much 1 trick if they wanted
So i deff think Dva deserves some sort of mitigation or resistance to beam/lazer dmg and thought so ever since 1 tank was announced.
All I know is Zarya vs Dva is the hardest counter in the game and it should not exist in 5v5. Any time you play dva you risk them counter picking with zarya and just running over your team. It has cost me third point on payload maps several times.
I play d.va as main in masters & gms. Without fail. Every game im rolling & doing well, after a few enemy deaths here comes the Zar, sym, echo or mei and for good measure a moira. D.va is my only tank pick i feel forced to swap on. I never feel the absolute need to swap when i pick sigma, Zar, orisa, or rein who are my backup picks.
Nah, good monkeys can play around their counters. Dva and ball are the two tanks with the most hard counters so it’s much harder for them to play around them when people are stacking counters on you.
Name another tank in overwatch that has as hard of a counter just in its own role as D.VA vs a Zar?. Not to even mention the dps counters. If its fully intentional then thats just bad design. They dont need to excell in everything but with only one tank they shouldnt be completley shut down by one thing either. No other tank in the game has that interaction.
If the enemy team goes zen + hanzo/bastion/mcree, then I have to swap off winston, there is no playing around that and maintaining my effectiveness. It will just be me trying not to die the entire time, and nobody wants their tank in that position.
Except she’s already received various Tank changes to make her more bulky and accessible for the OW2 landscape. They mini-reworked most of the tank roster.
I think this is mostly about dva vs zarya, which really sucks. Especially in a solo tank environment. I am strictly of the opinion tanks shouldnt hard counter other tanks if you are going to have solo tanks and so much resting on their shoulders.
Except she isn’t completely shut down. The weakness in question is only regarding her damage mitigation capabilities because beams go through Matrix. Other than that there are pretty straightforward ways to play against the various beam heroes in the game and just to be clear, we’re talking about just 5 heroes:
Zarya
Mei
Winston
Moira
Symmetra
Half of these aren’t bad match-ups. One of them is literally a support.
