there was no 3 tanks 3 supports before until brig came. he enables tanks yes but he does not make them op as someone else does cough cough cough brig cough cough cough
it depends
on how
you play him
omfg this isn’t even a problem anyway.
i wonder if you actually play him or not.
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- his movement does take skill and so does his gun.
2 & 3. he enables deathball comps and GOATS is a deathball comp, if you nerf him then normal deathballs will also be incredibly bad.
They already nerfed his speedboost pretty heavily
About the skill…
If you want to play like funnyastro or eskay, that takes real skill.
Yes, in bronze silver he is useful just being there around, but that is not enough in higher ranks.
About goats in owl, he is nerfed for next owl stage.
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See the speed a pro flies with Lúcio across the map while landing his shots. Now try doing the same.
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Ooooh, finally.
Was expecting the hate train to hit Lúcio after they hit Brigitte.
So, this weeks hate train goes to Lúcio. Can’t wait to see the hated hero next week.
Because we aren’t in OWL, so we hardly see GOATS.
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But call back on season 3 when quadruple tanks were a thing back then we had ana and… lucio mainly to use speedboost to kill enemies
He wasn’t part of Dive because his AOE heals don’t synergise very well with it.
Come on now.
Posts against Goats ?
AGAIN?
I have played almost everyday since the last patch in games between high-plat and master and I have only seen 1 Goat comp that we completely destroyed because they had no idea what they were doing.
Lucio is fine. He is picked because there are only 2 viable off healers - him and Zen. It seems about right that his pickrate should be high.
Stop trying to bring OWL issues into the actual game. It’s just not a thing
Also
He is very easy to pick up BUT his skill ceiling is crazy high. Way higher than most people believe it to be.
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In Dive he was used primary for his speedboost to chase targets. He never was picked for his healing in meta. He was litterally taxi so you could rush point.
Right I totally forgot about Moth/Double Sniper. But it was since season 5 to … 10(?).
You don’t need to speedboost D.Va, Monkey, Tracer or Genji… that leaves Zenny, who doesn’t need to be on the point at all. Who is he boosting?
Applying lucios auras to his team takes little skill.
Parkourong seound your opponents while dealing consistent damage and boooong them without being obliterated in the process, does.
Why would you remap jump to shift and crossfade to space?
Yes, there was it was called NiP comp after the team that first proved that valuable. This happened long before Brig or even dive. That comp evolved into triple tank with Soldier 76 taking the role as the only DPS after a series of quick nerfs and buffs to break it. And triple tank did have staying power until Ana was toned down, Lucio having previously been gutted.
GOATs did not become OP until the support patch. It was a comp but it was more normal power level.
That support saw Brig get nerfed, Mercy get nerfed (the hero that enabled the counter comps) and Lucio get buffed. So despite Brigitte’s individual power level going down she got much stronger as did GOATs. Why? Because of Lucio. He could easily speedboost everyone again, a problem they failed to actually solve the last time around causing history to repeat itself.
Prior to that it was double sniper/Dragonball not GOATs that was meta.
He was part of dive until Mercy’s rework. She does genuinely synergize better but she wasn’t good enough back then to justify using her at the highest levels of play over Ana or Lucio.
That’s why she got a rework instead of a straight nerf to Mass Rez. She wasn’t the most used healer for the top at ladder, she wasn’t dominating the pro scene, so a straight nerf to that ult would’ve been problematic. At the same time though hide and rez was clearly a design problem regardless of the stats.
So they fixed that issue by just scrapping the ult. And Mercy took her frankly rightful place in dive. Though she was also overpowered as well, obviously.
There is not ONE THING that enabled GOATS, but a few that combined enabled goats… When will people understand that X hero/thing didn’t create goats let alone…
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No hero requires a crazy high amount of skill to play poorly
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Sigh. No single hero enables Goats. Goats is so effective because you have six characters that synergize incredibly well, and amplify each other’s strengths and cover their weaknesses.
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